From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: mah@mhorton.net (Mary Ann Horton) Date: Mon, 25 May 2015 09:46:54 -0700 Subject: [TUHS] A repository with 44 years of Unix evolution gets the MSR '15 Best Data Showcase Award In-Reply-To: References: <555A4699.5060107@aueb.gr> <555D37FD.5010507@doomd.net> <555DC689.3050906@aueb.gr> Message-ID: <556351FE.70300@mhorton.net> Is the original SVR4 around somewhere (even if still considered trade secret or copyrighted?) I'm getting ready to have my collection of 9 track magtapes recovered, (Sydex sounds very reasonable) and I find I have 5 AT&T SVR4 tapes among them (all different, I think, but I won't know until I read them.) They are labeled Proprietary and Copyright, and I claim no special rights to them other than as an ex AT&T employee. Is it worth recovering them? Mary Ann On 05/21/2015 11:04 AM, Clem Cole wrote: > I never took those kinds of notes. We certainly talked about it and > we used to have know who had what at Locus since all of the majors > were our customers and we had to be very, very careful to not cross > pollinate. Sometimes we would do specific work in different offices, > just to make the firewall easier to manage. For instance the Ultrix > and Tru64 work we did for DEC, as well as the HP work was done in > Boston. Most of the IBM work was done in the LA office, and Intel > work was led in San Diego. > > There was a time when I had the release schedules of DEC, IBM, HP and > Sun taped the wall behind my desk, because we had teams delivering > things to all 4 of them. > > That said, if you talked to one of the UNIX press of the old days, > like the old "UNIXgram/X" folks, you could put together the > chronology. However, I don't know that any of that is on line anywhere > to search. But that would be the documentation I would look if I was > a lawyer trying to demonstrate who did what in what order. Some of > those folks are still around and writing, I saw something from Timothy > Pickering Morgan just yesterday talking about Linux and I see some of > the other names pop up in the blogs and journals at different times. > > On Thu, May 21, 2015 at 1:03 PM, Jacob Ritorto > > wrote: > > > On Thu, May 21, 2015 at 11:49 AM, Clem Cole > wrote: > > ​ HP/UX is an SVR3 & OSF/1 ancester. Solaris is SVR4. In fact > it was the SVR4 license and deal between Sun and AT&T)​ that > forced the whole OSF creation. One of the "principles" of the > OSF was "Fair and Stable" license terms. > > Which begs a question - since Solaris was SVR4 based and was > made freely available via OpenSolaris et al, does that not > make SVR4 open? I'm not a lawyer (nor play one on TV), but > it does seem like that sets some sort of precedent. > > > I hope not to hijack the thread, but those are interesting tidbits > of info, there, Clem. Are these strategic license moves > chronicled anywhere at the moment? It'd be interesting to read > exactly who sued whom, who asked for permission vs. who begged for > forgiveness, etc. > > thx > jake > > > > > _______________________________________________ > TUHS mailing list > TUHS at minnie.tuhs.org > https://minnie.tuhs.org/mailman/listinfo/tuhs -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: