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[69.109.130.206]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id d24sm13811996qko.54.2021.03.15.20.10.43 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Mon, 15 Mar 2021 20:10:43 -0700 (PDT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: Earl Baugh Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2021 23:10:42 -0400 Message-Id: <55D2C36A-9503-42F1-80B2-BBB1D9638449@gmail.com> References: <20210315234749.-J3mz%steffen@sdaoden.eu> In-Reply-To: <20210315234749.-J3mz%steffen@sdaoden.eu> To: Steffen Nurpmeso X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (18D61) Subject: Re: [TUHS] tabs vs spaces - entab, detab X-BeenThere: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: The Eunuchs Hysterical Society , Bakul Shah Errors-To: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org Sender: "TUHS" One of the times I was lucky enough to be able to hire and set up what I tho= ught would be the place I=E2=80=99d want to work ( design and code ), at th= e beginning I did the best I could to solve the =E2=80=9Creligious=E2=80=9D c= ode issues, tool issues, etc.=20 Code Formatting wise =E2=80=94 we came up with a =E2=80=9Cchecked-in-standar= d=E2=80=9D. All code went thru a code formatter when checking in. When it= came out, we build a couple templates that translated to formats for things= that different folks wanted ( and gave folks the option of tweaking their o= wn ). They could use the default ( I did ). Any thing was fair game, as l= ong as it got checked in =E2=80=9Cin the checked in standard=E2=80=9D. We a= lso came up with a set of rules for complexity, nesting. The entire team a= ctually was able to come to agreement =E2=80=94 if your code didn=E2=80=99t v= iolated the limit of minor or misc things ( critical and major things had to= be addressed ) it was fine. We set a limit of 1000 for minor and I think 50= 00 for misc. I was surprised how far from the standard stuff looked on va= rious folks workstations but during code reviews we had a =E2=80=9Ccommon la= nguage format=E2=80=9D we all could read without much fuss.=20 We did go with a line length of <132 so if necessary we could print stuff ou= t landscape. Tool wise, if it got in the way more than 50% it was gone and we=E2=80=99d f= ind a new one. Preference was for every editor, etc. to have at least two u= sers on the team. ( so you=E2=80=99d have someone to ask questions of ) And y= ou could use an IDE as long as code had standard makefiles when checked in. = =20 Surprisingly this worked out quite well with a team of around 20... Earl =20 Sent from my iPhone > On Mar 15, 2021, at 7:48 PM, Steffen Nurpmeso wrote: >=20 > =EF=BB=BFBakul Shah wrote in > <01BE1B3F-8745-4465-93EF-95AA83EFD494@iitbombay.org>: >=20 > Wonderful, i can re-answer in public, too, leaving something off. >=20 > --- Forwarded from Bakul Shah --- >=20 > Maybe because alternate processing rips myself off. Sigh. >=20 > ... > |Oh. Hm. I heard this on American Forces > |Network, told by Tony Scott, to which i listened from at least > |Monday to Thursday 00am to 04am (German Time). When such things > |were still possible, and thus in the first days, maybe the day it > |happened. (Before "Max" was taken offline after Tony Scott issued > |several "You can't say that on the radio", for sure.) >=20 > He surely did for years before that. But i mean, hey, just an > observation, i have no idea of american sensitivities. >=20 > |But thanks for the pointer. Haven't we had this already in the > |past? The above sounds dark and ugly to my ears, hmmmm. >=20 > Yeah i mean, this arose by the beginning of the 90s, right. > If the first examination does not reveal the desired result (but > maybe the truth even, heh), then just perform a second .. a third > one, until the result is absolutely what was wanted. Gulf war > illness, Barschel's death, W keys on the keyboard .. you name it. >=20 > --steffen > | > |Der Kragenbaer, The moon bear, > |der holt sich munter he cheerfully and one by one > |einen nach dem anderen runter wa.ks himself off > |(By Robert Gernhardt)