From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: mah@mhorton.net (Mary Ann Horton) Date: Thu, 24 Sep 2015 08:20:08 -0700 Subject: [TUHS] Questions regarding early Unix contributors In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <560414A8.2080002@mhorton.net> I defer to Clem on these. As I heard it, Lorinda wrote the Writers Workbench, a name pun on PWB, of which style and diction were the cornerstones. I thought she was at Bell Labs at the time. I recall a Bell Labs written summary booklet of DWB, although I can't find it in my museum. I also heard that Ted K (aka "frodo") got fsck released to Berkeley by swearing (somehow with a straight face) to the Bell Labs lawyers that it had no commercial value. Mary Ann On 09/24/2015 07:08 AM, Clem Cole wrote: > > On Thu, Sep 24, 2015 at 9:27 AM, > wrote: > > I think the Berkeley guys had an underground > pipeline to Bell labs and some stuff got out that way. :-) > > > ​It was not underground at all. Tools packaged in BSD came from all > over the community. style and diction were released into the wild by > themselves before the were packaged into an AT&T USG UNIX or Research > UNIX release. It got them personally directly and had them installed > at Tektronix soon after first publishing and a talk about them at > USENIX (IIRC that was the Boulder conference in the "Black Hole" movie > theatre. > > Since I had a minor stake in it (as my first C program) fsck is > another good example of the path to UCB . Ted started the predecessor > program ​when he was at UMich (with Bill Joy). He did his OYOC year > and later a full PhD at CMU. He was one of my lab partners in his > OYOC year. fsck was a we know it now was done during that time ( and > I helped him a bit). He was bring the sources back and forth from > Summit to CMU (at the time in an RK05 or sometimes a bootable DOS tape > image of one - I may still have one of these). I believe he gave a > copy of the sources very early to wnj -- which is how it ended up in > 4.1BSD. I don't think it was in the original 3.0 or 4.0 packages as > it was not in V5, V6 or V7 either. I believe it was released in PWB > 2.0 - not sure and Minnie does not seem to have them. > > I'm pretty the SCCS and cpio sources came through one of the PWB > releases (1 or 2) that UCB got from AT&T. > > ​Clem​ > > > > _______________________________________________ > TUHS mailing list > TUHS at minnie.tuhs.org > https://minnie.tuhs.org/mailman/listinfo/tuhs -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: