From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.1 (2015-04-28) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.9 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_SIGNED, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,HTML_FONT_LOW_CONTRAST,HTML_MESSAGE, MAILING_LIST_MULTI,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE,T_DKIM_INVALID autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.1 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (minnie.tuhs.org [45.79.103.53]) by inbox.vuxu.org (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTP id e7d59b1d for ; Wed, 8 Aug 2018 15:06:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 3919EA1CC1; Thu, 9 Aug 2018 01:06:34 +1000 (AEST) Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A170CA19DD; Thu, 9 Aug 2018 01:06:21 +1000 (AEST) Authentication-Results: minnie.tuhs.org; dkim=fail reason="signature verification failed" (2048-bit key; unprotected) header.d=serissa.com header.i=@serissa.com header.b=kKTJY/n2; dkim=fail reason="signature verification failed" (2048-bit key; unprotected) header.d=messagingengine.com header.i=@messagingengine.com header.b=TwmHAPjT; dkim-atps=neutral Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 173B9A19DD; Thu, 9 Aug 2018 01:06:19 +1000 (AEST) X-Greylist: delayed 591 seconds by postgrey-1.35 at minnie.tuhs.org; Thu, 09 Aug 2018 01:06:18 AEST Received: from wout2-smtp.messagingengine.com (wout2-smtp.messagingengine.com [64.147.123.25]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 40468A19D7 for ; Thu, 9 Aug 2018 01:06:18 +1000 (AEST) Received: from compute7.internal (compute7.nyi.internal [10.202.2.47]) by mailout.west.internal (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C7EC2DC; Wed, 8 Aug 2018 10:56:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mailfrontend2 ([10.202.2.163]) by compute7.internal (MEProxy); Wed, 08 Aug 2018 10:56:26 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=serissa.com; h= cc:content-type:date:from:in-reply-to:message-id:mime-version :references:subject:to:x-me-sender:x-me-sender:x-sasl-enc; s= fm3; bh=WHbAbp4UjI3CB6y2f2zBhHjgi5E6mB3TR4Y7KCr6SVk=; b=kKTJY/n2 7JqOaf0jWMovVTnS9WEoTC0ixOv6K8gBJxF+Zu/L96knWnlcztP/9td2Th111vMO SyjKnJI3LrzWsVJzu1J2vugXmwChcYHqBEQmHqiY9hrILjQ3UI+Cc3aECRf+6gOJ iFJcwLdvYt4eDOdEyK17eTrYsLZufACtsvTQYyyHxB5dF74kfsSj1lYWnvFR10fx UPyMdWhbT0KvWHtWfwGsJMtr6gM/AMhip/tuqLhaPsndGWO180UC7/KDxYG0/2XQ B2CKhyzLDs+yj1JGMSSxvsZQnVKzdUtn/eCgcHQkmm5ZJWaFFsa/L2rAvOeiY+vw XxyRxicbw9AN1A== DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=cc:content-type:date:from:in-reply-to :message-id:mime-version:references:subject:to:x-me-sender :x-me-sender:x-sasl-enc; s=fm3; bh=WHbAbp4UjI3CB6y2f2zBhHjgi5E6m B3TR4Y7KCr6SVk=; b=TwmHAPjTMcStTJyFyqDp6peGmsG7n3J9t2wLlyslowjqX Q7rYYs+h+/MEgRtSPCwszF5KimLvoOUuh5yzgXE3PPEMqtjZ/w76UAUM65VipzHM oes9hdK+aKbUvccaJAsZdK9xVVMX3A6WuRl9kV3kbnx36DvM4sRSjFzTltIS85yx h+0SbDZ03O//smRcqSNfo3qMhlyx5tYyw/zYCUjfC58sHCh96DE6hXBddmnAdGMZ H26E1g7P77PLGJM8Io4GLpZ35Q8WAwx/2yR8yIuTDHRIi2pUk7XQOTakp6WiUksy u4JlpQMocV/WBEqej9fpftuIb9zedzdoG9SrkQfnQ== X-ME-Proxy: X-ME-Sender: Received: from kailua-display.stewart.org (pool-108-7-35-57.bstnma.fios.verizon.net [108.7.35.57]) by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 3102810288; Wed, 8 Aug 2018 10:56:25 -0400 (EDT) From: Lawrence Stewart Message-Id: <572221F5-329B-4E2A-86B4-F058A3230463@serissa.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_B12AFAD3-9DD3-47F6-9AE8-D4D268DDD1E1" Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 11.5 \(3445.9.1\)) Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2018 10:56:23 -0400 In-Reply-To: To: Clem Cole References: <20180808123229.86FD5E465F@mailuser.nyi.internal> <6EBCF9E5-4600-42D6-9F83-3E2966140540@donhopkins.com> <20180808135106.D7441E4636@mailuser.nyi.internal> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3445.9.1) Subject: Re: [TUHS] TUHS Digest, Vol 33, Issue 7 X-BeenThere: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: "tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org" , Don Hopkins Errors-To: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org Sender: "TUHS" --Apple-Mail=_B12AFAD3-9DD3-47F6-9AE8-D4D268DDD1E1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Oh my yes. The Model 33=E2=80=99s and the 2741s=E2=80=A6 The timer = setting off the ball rotate to remind you the computer is tapping its = foot... But all is not lost for those from the =E2=80=9880s. There is=20 http://www.secretgeometry.com/apps/cathode/ = a terminal emulator prepared to mimic screen curvature, flicker, visible = scan lines, etc. -Larry > On 2018, Aug 8, at 10:45 AM, Clem Cole wrote: >=20 >=20 >=20 > On Wed, Aug 8, 2018 at 9:51 AM, Sijmen J. Mulder > wrote: > I'm too young to have worked with teletypes or terminals but to >=20 >=20 > experience what working over a slower connection would be like I wrote >=20 > a small pty program that throttles stdin and stdout to a given baud >=20 > rate >=20 > Sadly you are missing three important features in your emulation. = First the noise and the second associated motion of the carriage as the = printer did its thing. (The movement of the 'ball' (cylinder on a TTY) = was magical and made it quite set of sounds you will never forget - = often duplicated in the movies). But the hardest thing to simulate is = the distinct smell of light machine oil that all terminal rooms had.=20 > Clem=20 > =E1=90=A7 --Apple-Mail=_B12AFAD3-9DD3-47F6-9AE8-D4D268DDD1E1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Oh = my yes.  The Model 33=E2=80=99s and the 2741s=E2=80=A6  The = timer setting off the ball rotate to remind you the computer is tapping = its foot...

But all = is not lost for those from the =E2=80=9880s.  There = is 

http://www.secretgeometry.com/apps/cathode/

a terminal emulator = prepared to mimic screen curvature, flicker, visible scan lines, = etc.

-Larry

On 2018, Aug 8, at 10:45 AM, Clem Cole <clemc@ccc.com> = wrote:



On Wed, Aug 8, 2018 at 9:51 AM, Sijmen J. = Mulder <ik@sjmulder.nl> wrote:

I'm too young to have worked with teletypes = or terminals but to

experience what = working over a slower connection would be like I wrote

a small pty program that throttles stdin and stdout to a = given baud

rate

Sadly you are missing three important = features in your emulation.  First the noise and the second = associated motion of the carriage as the printer did its thing.  = (The movement of the 'ball' (cylinder on a TTY) was magical and made it = quite set of sounds you will never forget - often duplicated in the = movies).   But the hardest thing to simulate is the distinct = smell of light machine oil that all terminal rooms = had. 
Clem 
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