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From: mah@mhorton.net (Mary Ann Horton)
Subject: [TUHS] Origin year of BSD csh?
Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2016 09:30:39 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <5770032F.8030306@mhorton.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <201606261014.u5QAE1qX015184@skeeve.com>

1BSD did not contain csh, and was officially released March 9 1978. It 
contained something called "a shell" which appears to be a predecessor 
to csh, but was still compiled as sh.  The README on 1BSD from Bill Joy 
states:

    Wed Oct 19, 1977

    This directory contains the source for a shell.
    It requires floating point to do the time command which is built-in
    so you will have to cc it -f on machines without floating point.
    It also requires a version 7 C compiler.

    Accurate documentation is in the file "sh.6" to be nroffed with
    /usr/man/man0/naa and a new "version 7" nroff.

    This shell requires the "htmp" data base also used by the editor "ex".
    If you do not set it up so that the "sethome" command is done by "login"
    then you should use the old "osethome" routine in ../s6 rather than
    "sethome"
    and reenable the execl of this sethome in the file "sh.c" (with the
    correct
    pathname).

2BSD did include csh and was first officially released May 1979. I'm 
sure there were informal advance copies of csh sent out sooner. I recall 
csh already being on the UCB systems when I arrived in September of 1978.

I brought csh with me to Bell Labs in the summer of 1979.  The folks at 
Bell Labs recoiled in horror: they had just gone through a painful 
conversion from the Mashey shell to the Bourne shell, and would never 
consider another conversion.  csh was (mostly) upward compatible with 
the Mashey shell, unlike the Bourne shell.  (This was in the Bell Labs 
Computer Center, where I was a summer employee, not Research or the PWB 
group, which I'm sure felt the same way.)

     Mary Ann

On 06/26/2016 03:14 AM, Aharon Robbins wrote:
> Hi.
>
> Can anyone give a definitive date for when Bill Joy's csh first got out
> of Berkeley?  I suspect it's in the 1976 - 1977 time frame, but I don't
> know for sure.
>
> Thanks!
>
> Arnold

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Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-06-26 10:14 Aharon Robbins
2016-06-26 16:30 ` Mary Ann Horton [this message]
2016-06-26 18:14   ` Larry McVoy
2016-06-26 18:32     ` Ronald Natalie
2016-06-26 20:43       ` John Cowan
2016-06-27  0:59         ` Larry McVoy
2016-06-27  1:11           ` John Cowan
2016-06-27 11:27       ` Sven Mascheck
2016-06-27 12:47         ` Steve Nickolas
2016-06-27 14:58         ` Joerg Schilling
2016-06-27 15:29           ` Ronald Natalie
2016-06-27 16:22         ` John Cowan
2016-06-27 16:35           ` Steve Nickolas
2016-06-27 20:00         ` Dave Horsfall
2016-06-27 20:33         ` Ronald Natalie
2016-06-27 20:44           ` Clem Cole
2016-06-27 21:02           ` Steve Nickolas
2016-06-27 21:15             ` Ronald Natalie
2016-06-27 21:20           ` John Cowan
2016-06-27 21:28             ` Ronald Natalie
2016-06-27 21:45               ` John Cowan
2016-06-28  6:49               ` Peter Jeremy
2016-06-28  7:51                 ` arnold
2016-06-27 21:29           ` Random832
2016-06-28 14:47         ` Tony Finch
2016-06-26 19:41     ` Clem Cole
2016-06-27 10:31       ` Joerg Schilling
2016-06-27 13:01         ` Ronald Natalie
2016-06-27 13:15           ` Steffen Nurpmeso
2016-06-27 15:17           ` Joerg Schilling
2016-06-27 13:39         ` [TUHS] Bizarre job control, was csh Warren Toomey
2016-06-27 15:00           ` Steve Nickolas
2016-06-27 15:13             ` Joerg Schilling
2016-06-27 15:23               ` Steve Nickolas
2016-06-26 20:58     ` [TUHS] Origin year of BSD csh? Steve Nickolas
2016-06-27 10:03 ` Joerg Schilling

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