From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=MAILING_LIST_MULTI, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 26743 invoked from network); 16 Jul 2021 02:40:34 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (45.79.103.53) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 16 Jul 2021 02:40:34 -0000 Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 0013A9C84C; Fri, 16 Jul 2021 12:40:29 +1000 (AEST) Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 160C39C7F1; Fri, 16 Jul 2021 12:40:09 +1000 (AEST) Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id E88439C7F1; Fri, 16 Jul 2021 12:40:05 +1000 (AEST) X-Greylist: delayed 364 seconds by postgrey-1.36 at minnie.tuhs.org; Fri, 16 Jul 2021 12:40:01 AEST Received: from mail.bluegrass.net (mail.bluegrass.net [216.135.65.230]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC6689C7F0 for ; Fri, 16 Jul 2021 12:40:01 +1000 (AEST) Received: from [10.0.255.5] (1417221-static.lxtnkya4.metronetinc.net [162.221.223.29]) (Authenticated sender: risner@lokkak.com) by mail.bluegrass.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 30F7236015D; Thu, 15 Jul 2021 22:33:53 -0400 (EDT) From: risner@stdio.com To: Dave Horsfall Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2021 22:33:52 -0400 X-Mailer: MailMate (1.14r5798) Message-ID: <5777F7E6-062B-4C5A-9C98-36FFE6AC3414@stdio.com> In-Reply-To: References: <213a4c11-3ab2-4b4a-8d6b-b52105a19711@localhost> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: Re: [TUHS] 386BSD released X-BeenThere: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: The Eunuchs Hysterical Society Errors-To: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org Sender: "TUHS" I was running 386BSD 0.0 on a 386 40 mhz machine in April 1992 with 32 mb of ram. There was much instability in the OS with more than 8 gb of ram and I mailed 32 mb of extra to the Jolitz late summer to the fall. I never heard about Linux until much later in 1993. There used to be a post on usenet news annoucing the relase with the FTP, but the best I could google was this FAQ confirming release in 1992. https://groups.google.com/g/comp.os.386bsd.announce/c/PGltboD6rq4 I have repetively seen discussion suggesting Linux was available first, but having directly worked for a university at the time installing SunOS, AT&T SVR3, and other old OS’s, we welcomed the concept of switching from AT&T SVR3 on 386 machines to 386BSD. We’d probably have welcomed Linux if anyone in the department knew about it. James Risner On 15 Jul 2021, at 21:35, Dave Horsfall wrote: > On Wed, 14 Jul 2021, Michael Kjörling wrote: > >>> In 1992, 386BSD is released by Lynne and William Jolitz, starting >>> the open source operating system movement (Linux didn't come along >>> under later). >> >> Are you sure? Wikipedia claims that it happened the other way around; >> that the Linux kernel initial release was 0.02 on 5 Oct 1991, while >> the 386BSD initial release was 0.0 on 12 March 1992. > > Could be; I got that news from one of those daily history sites (I > don't always trust Wikipedia). > >> It seems that work on 386BSD began earlier than work on Linux, but >> that the initial release of Linux was earlier than the initial >> release of 386BSD. > > That could be the source of the confusion. > > -- Dave