From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.1 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_SIGNED,DKIM_VALID, DKIM_VALID_AU,FREEMAIL_FROM,HTML_MESSAGE,MAILING_LIST_MULTI, MIME_QP_LONG_LINE,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 21672 invoked from network); 5 Mar 2021 02:07:08 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (45.79.103.53) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 5 Mar 2021 02:07:08 -0000 Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 2D8FE9CA6B; Fri, 5 Mar 2021 12:07:06 +1000 (AEST) Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED0C99CA68; Fri, 5 Mar 2021 12:06:46 +1000 (AEST) Authentication-Results: minnie.tuhs.org; dkim=pass (2048-bit key; unprotected) header.d=gmail.com header.i=@gmail.com header.b="jbEnC0R7"; dkim-atps=neutral Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id ECB609CA68; Fri, 5 Mar 2021 12:06:44 +1000 (AEST) Received: from mail-oi1-f178.google.com (mail-oi1-f178.google.com [209.85.167.178]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 29E659CA67 for ; Fri, 5 Mar 2021 12:06:44 +1000 (AEST) Received: by mail-oi1-f178.google.com with SMTP id i21so825866oii.2 for ; Thu, 04 Mar 2021 18:06:44 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to; bh=79bMqdMOG6U3FcHGTnctjmp0sb4HOfEHdNZpUp0Hjbg=; b=jbEnC0R7AVdoI/s7CWqusFySj84AGSgmKax101guWZXcfOnGqHsf7wuTNsxM9hKpxz cpgZ98MdFcrR99Bc6cogm9p1K7UbuSZk9bnI4H5YZfLtWaeA3gmUGa07hT8IW8kpJ0Yl 7+6p252LP/SbAppIr0zjUbVDptBtKg1V29jn3t/BTYXh+VKKDmNk8ta4AvHVHOiPzTgj h70XkeDAPqU168AGFx7h3+nfNkdGlNAMFsKHkYFg8XPgMrJOsKal9TICr9pE/7R/NJo4 2wxV5ooLLB3y9ATF9KMHLyCon8FXugEGC81JpYqeJdsUijXbrMoYDeDnZd5ceXr3NFmP qx8Q== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to; bh=79bMqdMOG6U3FcHGTnctjmp0sb4HOfEHdNZpUp0Hjbg=; b=pALUB3CzeK0CS5tL738MT9rLfhUI7PBqeGFX2UpOudciEjqxGCBoboThiEJwb0W9Kd t4yV0I5tFd+w+fwblTuqKyrj98b1KdVyfHwQ14i6N7YxvaLbPBj5vIa3MSEcE6H6a63e 7Nch5sAvHaPYTksGamJcu2r1dDx9eY0HKYIbtV813TbNwtD1TaflsmRe5mWSp256yuYA 2wKIGZJ7/wfIBpel6WQORZe4UHeoyMopi4/Ju98CTWMxqOShEiEAkNDjjYAivMJJDsMG EKkj2PudzeuSzQUJT3ccAvcfQldcUl1MWZwiIBD2J7Jg8IfVYz3yCtsu5bxfH8mEJHnk JBEw== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM532SvrewUBbWKNglo62VbqxkkB0zqyXETQcNyHPTC2sMw/I4gOku U+xut1oSyDv8RfX12bJLBc7fePh+t9a86g== X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJyUqVMHyGm7CCL2qNzW3Pw0xY6EshBixwb4zaJnsfRsC8vX3aizpL2kthATZ74R6YnqyeZWBg== X-Received: by 2002:a05:6808:1390:: with SMTP id c16mr5109893oiw.27.1614910003113; Thu, 04 Mar 2021 18:06:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from [10.10.189.128] ([107.125.25.86]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id t2sm332950otq.45.2021.03.04.18.06.41 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-ECDSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Thu, 04 Mar 2021 18:06:42 -0800 (PST) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-84EF7C09-8C00-4361-9881-60AD077DD2BF Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) From: Will Senn X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (16H22) In-Reply-To: Date: Thu, 4 Mar 2021 20:06:40 -0600 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <57A1A023-7E73-4233-8FF2-CED5EB1CDB7C@gmail.com> References: To: alan@alanlee.org Subject: Re: [TUHS] tabs vs spaces - entab, detab X-BeenThere: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: TUHS main list Errors-To: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org Sender: "TUHS" --Apple-Mail-84EF7C09-8C00-4361-9881-60AD077DD2BF Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Ha. I didn=E2=80=99t intend to reignite a flamewar. I was asking about the h= istory. I got that and more :). But, i=E2=80=99m still curious about entab/d= etab abd expand, etc. Were they oor some of them created to help with this o= r what? Will Sent from my iPhone > On Mar 4, 2021, at 7:55 PM, alan@alanlee.org wrote: >=20 > Of course the sequel to this thread will be to camelCase or not to camel_c= ase. Or maybe whether to prefix functions and variable with a type abbrevia= tion like siCounter for a signed integer counter as if 99% of people in 2021= are not using an editor that allows quick inspection of variables and funct= ions. Maybe we can get to the third act of how to align braces and parens! >=20 > brb, getting some peanuts, popcorn, and a comfortable seat! >=20 > -A >=20 > P.S. In all seriousness, keep it civil! :) >=20 >> On 2021-03-04 11:52, Will Senn wrote: >>=20 >> OK. So, I've been trying to decide (for the last time, I swear) whether t= o use tabs or spaces in my code... I did a quick pulse-check on the state of= argument and it appears to be alive and well in 2021. My question for y'all= is, was there a preference in the very early days or not? I saw an article t= alking about the 20 year feud, but that's not my recollection. In 1994, nobo= dy agreed on this, but I'm sure it predates my entree into the field. I'm th= inking the history of entab and detab are somehow related, but I've been wro= ng on these sorts of thoughts before. What say you? >>=20 >> Will >=20 --Apple-Mail-84EF7C09-8C00-4361-9881-60AD077DD2BF Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Ha. I didn=E2=80=99t intend to reignite a f= lamewar. I was asking about the history. I got that and more :). But, i=E2=80= =99m still curious about entab/detab abd expand, etc. Were they oor some of t= hem created to help with this or what?

Will

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On Mar 4, 2021, at 7:55 PM, alan@= alanlee.org wrote:

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Of course the sequel to this thread will be to camelCase or not to camel_= case.  Or maybe whether to prefix functions and variable with a type ab= breviation like siCounter for a signed integer counter as if 99% of people i= n 2021 are not using an editor that allows quick inspection of variables and= functions.  Maybe we can get to the third act of how to align braces a= nd parens!

brb, getting some peanuts, popcorn, and a comfortable seat!

-A

P.S. In all seriousness, keep it civil! :)

On 2021-03-04 11:52, Will Senn wrote:

OK. So, I= 've been trying to decide (for the last time, I swear) whether to use tabs o= r spaces in my code... I did a quick pulse-check on the state of argument an= d it appears to be alive and well in 2021. My question for y'all is, was the= re a preference in the very early days or not? I saw an article talking abou= t the 20 year feud, but that's not my recollection. In 1994, nobody agreed o= n this, but I'm sure it predates my entree into the field. I'm thinking the h= istory of entab and detab are somehow related, but I've been wrong on these s= orts of thoughts before. What say you?

Will


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