From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: schily@schily.net (Joerg Schilling) Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2016 17:27:03 +0200 Subject: [TUHS] BSD/v8 TCP/IP (was Shell control through external commands) In-Reply-To: <1473685007.9047.for-standards-violators@oclsc.org> References: <1473685007.9047.for-standards-violators@oclsc.org> Message-ID: <57d6c947.hh0AnWl1uvortcSr%schily@schily.net> Norman Wilson wrote: > I'm not sure of the point of this mine-is-bigger-than-yours argument, but: > > The earliest stream-I/O-system-based tty driver I'm aware of was > already in the Research kernel when I interviewed at Bell Labs > in early 1984. I have a vague memory that it was a couple of > years older than that, and was first implemented in a post-V7 > PDP-11 system; also that I had heard about it first at a USENIX > conference in 1982 or 1983; but I cannot find any citations to > back up either of those memories. Because of the design bug I mentioned, I searched for UNIX sources from AT&T that include streams support, but could never find any. Sun fixed the bug aprox. one year after introducing SunOS-4.0. I am sure that if someone did use a streams based system written from the AT&T specs together with a modern shell with an integrated history editor, the character loss would have been detected. Jörg -- EMail:joerg at schily.net (home) Jörg Schilling D-13353 Berlin joerg.schilling at fokus.fraunhofer.de (work) Blog: http://schily.blogspot.com/ URL: http://cdrecord.org/private/ http://sourceforge.net/projects/schilytools/files/'