From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.1 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_SIGNED,DKIM_VALID, DKIM_VALID_AU,MAILING_LIST_MULTI,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 13717 invoked from network); 4 Apr 2021 01:59:53 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (45.79.103.53) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 4 Apr 2021 01:59:53 -0000 Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id ABDFC9CA5C; Sun, 4 Apr 2021 11:59:46 +1000 (AEST) Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D36839C641; Sun, 4 Apr 2021 11:59:08 +1000 (AEST) Authentication-Results: minnie.tuhs.org; dkim=pass (1024-bit key; unprotected) header.d=pobox.com header.i=@pobox.com header.b="g1MRA5OC"; dkim-atps=neutral Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 71E669C641; Sun, 4 Apr 2021 11:59:04 +1000 (AEST) X-Greylist: delayed 594 seconds by postgrey-1.36 at minnie.tuhs.org; Sun, 04 Apr 2021 11:59:03 AEST Received: from pb-smtp21.pobox.com (pb-smtp21.pobox.com [173.228.157.53]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 99DBD9C63F for ; Sun, 4 Apr 2021 11:59:03 +1000 (AEST) Received: from pb-smtp21.pobox.com (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by pb-smtp21.pobox.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6500410CBCB; Sat, 3 Apr 2021 21:49:08 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from davida@pobox.com) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed; d=pobox.com; h=content-type :content-transfer-encoding:from:mime-version:subject:date :message-id:references:cc:in-reply-to:to; s=sasl; bh=+Q+LSzbuTGD Bb7Iqoky/FunL5yE=; b=g1MRA5OCHHXzi51P+bx6bdalQszFKF4Kj4EZaiH8DgL z/5qK01IGkjR4fv44Efz0G5ocN3r5GdTA5p8EV8inUdVFgURQYEv07RMcpc1eeCA 6hWvkDEg/SC24NXqmsAVAzte7N5Tf4sg02/+/H0b0WWF2zFqd8DVurY8I7+M+Tiw = DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=pobox.com; h=content-type :content-transfer-encoding:from:mime-version:subject:date :message-id:references:cc:in-reply-to:to; q=dns; s=sasl; b=GerlX 5XZ4F38BV8xcrWta3TZB9se1XAWNu5mwQ8+YBZxOOVW0c5KXjZyshTPw5CX1CBFC LRD3QboAc7UmSt+ueUG3jz8U9y35x8X/SmhDARNe0o/ZYSLL5Klp5J8Eg4fAGf9O 3QaMU+zrE4mI6mKu/LOLlVZFRn7WbkXYxGz1IM= Received: from pb-smtp21.sea.icgroup.com (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by pb-smtp21.pobox.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5EC5710CBCA; Sat, 3 Apr 2021 21:49:08 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from davida@pobox.com) Received: from [IPv6:2001:8004:c40:1bca:99bd:a154:4b46:71c1] (unknown [1.129.30.158]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pb-smtp21.pobox.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id BC58E10CBC7; Sat, 3 Apr 2021 21:49:05 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from davida@pobox.com) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: David Arnold Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) Date: Sun, 4 Apr 2021 11:48:57 +1000 Message-Id: <584DED5A-1226-4AF7-A191-C34CAFA53686@pobox.com> References: In-Reply-To: To: Dave Horsfall X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (18D61) X-Pobox-Relay-ID: F07A6624-94E7-11EB-8AFC-D609E328BF65-29049682!pb-smtp21.pobox.com Subject: Re: [TUHS] Zombified SCO comes back from the dead, brings trial back to life against IBM X-BeenThere: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: The Eunuchs Hysterical Society Errors-To: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org Sender: "TUHS" > On 3 Apr 2021, at 12:51, Dave Horsfall wrote: ... > SunOS 4.1 was the best *ix I have ever used (and I've used lots over the d= ecades); I used to tell people the same thing: my memory of it was very positive. And= then I booted up my 4.1.1 tape on my 3/260 and .. it was very ordinary. The headers were missing a bunch of declarations, the tools didn=E2=80=99t h= ave a lot of the options I=E2=80=99ve since come to rely on: it felt half-do= ne and oddly amateurish compared to a recent Linux or BSD.=20 I was surprised. I tried Ultrix 4.4, Irix 5.3, and NeXT 3.3 (which I had mor= e or less at hand) and they were all pretty awful. The world has moved on, and my bar is a lot higher now. I don=E2=80=99t doub= t SunOS was great at the time but it=E2=80=99s absolutely obsolete now.=20 d=