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From: schily@schily.net (Joerg Schilling)
Subject: [TUHS] offtopic: broadband (redirect from bloat)
Date: Thu, 09 Feb 2017 23:48:36 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <589cf1c4.kBD9YOKLENXfOL4u%schily@schily.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170209172752.GY25691@mcvoy.com>

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Larry McVoy <lm at mcvoy.com> wrote:

> > America is first world.  This statement declassifies most of
> > Germanies countryside as second world, at maximum.  I for one am
> > happy if i get a constant stream equivalent to ISDN.  In the outer
> > region of a city in one of the richest parts of Germany, that is.
>
> Really?  I thought that America was trailing in broadband.  And in
> Germany?  I'm stunned, usually we're looking at Germany and sighing
> about how much better run it is than our country.  You guys are very
> efficient.  How is it possible that you have crappy internet, are you
> sure that's normal?

What technology is available depends on where you are located.

Around 1980, I designed and build a 300 Baud modem and used it together with a 
VT50a (12x80 uppercase only) from home. Then in 1991 we designed and build an 
ISDN adaptor for a Sun-3/50 with some friends (I had plenty of them from 
H.Berthold AG at that time). We installed some of them in the TU-Berlin and 
this way could use the internet from home.

I got my own ISDN at home in 1992 and switched from DSL to VDSL in march 2008.

From an offer from German Telekom, I could get ADSL with 16Mbit even in my 
weekend house 60 km from the center of Berlin. The property is in a nature 
conservation area. 5km from this place, wolves have been seen.....

German Telekom will shut down ISDN in Germany to the end of this year and my
ISDN connection has been converted into SIP two months ago...

But hey, on November 12 1877, the worlds first phone company started their 
services in Berlin and in 1923 the first auto-dial phone system opened in 
Berlin.

I am not sure where Steffen exactly lives and why he has problems.

What is hard to get and expensive (iff) in Germany is internet over optical.

Jörg

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2017-02-09 22:48 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 53+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-02-07  3:03 [TUHS] How Unix brings people together, or it's a small Doug McIlroy
2017-02-07  4:06 ` Marc Rochkind
2017-02-07 23:10   ` Clem Cole
2017-02-07 23:38     ` Steve Johnson
2017-02-08  2:55       ` [TUHS] Code bloat (was: How Unix brings people together, or it's a small...) Greg 'groggy' Lehey
2017-02-08  3:47         ` Nick Downing
2017-02-08  3:56           ` Jason Stevens
2017-02-08  8:25             ` Wesley Parish
2017-02-08  9:57               ` Steve Nickolas
2017-02-08 11:21             ` Nick Downing
2017-02-08 11:59               ` [TUHS] Code bloat (was: How Unix brings people together, or it'sa small...) jsteve
2017-02-08 12:24                 ` Nick Downing
2017-02-08 12:29               ` [TUHS] Code bloat Jacob Goense
2017-02-08 12:57                 ` Nick Downing
2017-02-08 13:10                 ` jsteve
2017-02-08 14:10                   ` Jacob Goense
2017-02-08 14:34                     ` Ron Natalie
2017-02-08 14:43                       ` Brantley Coile
2017-02-08 15:09                       ` Dan Cross
2017-02-08 15:26                         ` Nick Downing
2017-02-08 15:18                     ` Jason Stevens
2017-02-08 16:25                 ` Tony Finch
2017-02-09 14:03                   ` Jacob Goense
2017-02-09 14:41                     ` jsteve
2017-02-09 15:03                       ` Jacob Goense
2017-02-09 15:08                         ` Jason Stevens
2017-02-09 15:30                     ` Tony Finch
2017-02-09 16:14                       ` Warner Losh
2017-02-09 23:38                         ` [TUHS] Free/NetBSD revision history (was Code bloat) Jacob Goense
2017-02-10  4:11                           ` Warner Losh
2017-02-10  4:17                           ` Warner Losh
2017-02-08 13:56               ` [TUHS] Code bloat (was: How Unix brings people together, or it's a small...) Paul Ruizendaal
     [not found]                 ` <CAH1jEzZqRPYenwzBbUwFVanA-NVvWMGzYiADVoAXCDOqnUrMrg@mail.gmail.com>
2017-02-09  3:02                   ` [TUHS] Fwd: " Nick Downing
2017-02-09  9:19                     ` [TUHS] " Paul Ruizendaal
2017-02-09  9:58                       ` Michael Kjörling
2017-02-09 10:08                         ` Paul Ruizendaal
2017-02-09 16:36                       ` Larry McVoy
2017-02-09 16:42                         ` Warner Losh
2017-02-09 16:49                           ` Larry McVoy
2017-02-09 17:24                             ` Steffen Nurpmeso
2017-02-09 17:27                               ` [TUHS] offtopic: broadband (redirect from bloat) Larry McVoy
2017-02-09 19:05                                 ` Steffen Nurpmeso
2017-02-09 22:48                                 ` Joerg Schilling [this message]
2017-02-09 19:54                             ` [TUHS] Code bloat (was: How Unix brings people together, Corey Lindsly
2017-02-09 20:08                               ` pechter
2017-02-09 20:30                               ` Arthur Krewat
2017-02-09 23:47                                 ` Jacob Goense
2017-02-09 21:06                               ` Larry McVoy
2017-02-09 21:02                             ` [TUHS] Code bloat (was: How Unix brings people together, or it's a small...) Joerg Schilling
2017-02-09 16:58                         ` [TUHS] Code bloat William Pechter
2017-02-09 19:50                       ` [TUHS] Code bloat (was: How Unix brings people together, or it's a small...) Clem Cole
2017-02-08  5:37           ` Peter Jeremy
2017-02-08 12:16       ` [TUHS] How Unix brings people together, or it's a small ches@Cheswick.com

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