From: schily@schily.net (Joerg Schilling)
Subject: [TUHS] Ninth Edition incomplete?
Date: Wed, 05 Apr 2017 11:39:17 +0200 [thread overview]
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Norman Wilson <norman at oclsc.org> wrote:
> Joerg Schilling:
>
> Interesting that they created a name clash:
>
> "p" was the name of a pager on UNOS, the first realtime
> UNIX lookalike from former AT&T employees.
>
> =====
>
> p was something Rob Pike brought when he arrived in
> 1980. I believe he wrote its first version several
> years earlier, when he was at the University of Toronto.
The timestamp for p.c in V8 is:
May 30 06:56 1983
Do you have a link to verify that it has been created earlier?
> Since UNOS dates from 1981 (says Wikipedia), I think
> Rob's p gets precedence.
p from UNOS was written by Jeff Goldberg in 1981 or 1982.
> Not that it matters. There never was, nor should there
> ever have been, some global register of UNIX command
> names during its formative years. UNIX was a research
> platform and a living work-in-progress until it became
> productized in the latter part of the 1980s.
Well, in practice people managed this problem nicely.
The annoying name clashes I am aware of are less than 20 years old.
> And, of course, UNOS was a lookalike written from scratch.
> It wasn't UNIX. If it wanted to be, it should have
> adopted Rob's p!
Well, if Rob's p existed before and was available as OSS.....
The background for UNOS in it's first glance was that Jeff Goldberg wanted to
rewrite UNIX from scratch in less than a year. I believe, he did a pretty good
job.
BTW: UNOS has been sold to real customers from it's beginning. Was UNIX V8
available outside AT&T?
Jörg
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2017-04-04 21:01 Norman Wilson
2017-04-05 9:39 ` Joerg Schilling [this message]
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2017-04-05 16:08 Norman Wilson
2017-04-01 14:09 Doug McIlroy
2017-04-03 17:27 ` Joerg Schilling
2017-04-04 13:07 ` Random832
2017-04-04 13:14 ` Joerg Schilling
2017-04-01 13:38 Doug McIlroy
2017-04-01 13:47 ` Jason Stevens
2017-04-01 14:27 ` Doug McIlroy
2017-04-01 15:39 ` Clem Cole
2017-03-31 19:16 Norman Wilson
2017-03-31 19:53 ` Clem Cole
2017-04-01 5:43 ` Warner Losh
2017-03-31 15:34 Diomidis Spinellis
2017-04-01 0:40 ` Noel Hunt
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