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[135.180.1.185]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id a10sm7681984pfl.159.2019.08.28.10.45.38 for (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Wed, 28 Aug 2019 10:45:38 -0700 (PDT) To: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org References: <20190828172451.GX13570@mcvoy.com> From: Jon Forrest Message-ID: <59c49df3-66c3-ca86-18e7-fa1f8251883a@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 28 Aug 2019 10:45:38 -0700 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20190828172451.GX13570@mcvoy.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [TUHS] ISO, OSI, and DECnet (was Re: If not Linux, then what?) X-BeenThere: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org Sender: "TUHS" On 8/28/2019 10:24 AM, Larry McVoy wrote: > The great Mike Padlipski said "do you want protocols that look nice or > protocols that work nice?" in his fantastic book Elements of Networking > Style [*]. > I liked the book enough that I tracked down a phone number for Mike, > I think he was at UCLA or somewhere in LA but I might be wrong (the > number I have is 310-670-4288 which is a LA area code), and called him > and thanked him for the book. We ended up becoming friendly with each > other and chatted from time to time about networking stuff. I miss that > guy, he was great. I'm an average system person who's has had the great fortune to have worked with many world-class people. My first real job was at Ford Aerospace in 1978. They were an early commercial user of Unix (PWB in their case). John Nagle had the desk next to me. Mike Padlipski was also in the group. I never knew exactly what Mike did, given that he seemed to spend most of his time smoking and reading the N. Y. Times. But, other great people in the group said that Mike was a networking protocol expert. I guess he was. Mike didn't really converse. Instead, he expounded at great length. He was quite a character. > [*] The book is available here for $20. Worth it. I have a copy I'd like to sell. It's the 1985 printing. I'll also sell my copy for $20 + shipping (local pickup in the Berkeley area is welcome). Contact me off list if you're interested. Jon