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([2600:1700:1960:6f09:8f3:ec5c:1cbf:2cf9]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id y14sm20587763qtc.84.2020.08.11.10.30.14 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Tue, 11 Aug 2020 10:30:14 -0700 (PDT) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-0C0B5D9B-627F-4271-BAB8-4CDBEA006F0B Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Earl Baugh Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2020 13:30:14 -0400 Message-Id: <5B43EBFF-B557-4FD3-8146-188D7ED4C64D@gmail.com> References: In-Reply-To: To: Clem Cole X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (17F80) Subject: Re: [TUHS] in memoriam - Bill English, mouse co-creator X-BeenThere: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: TUHS main list Errors-To: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org Sender: "TUHS" --Apple-Mail-0C0B5D9B-627F-4271-BAB8-4CDBEA006F0B Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable The Sun 1 also had a Hawley mouse ( as an early option ), before they switch= ed to the optical.=20 Earl=20 Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 11, 2020, at 10:03 AM, Clem Cole wrote: >=20 > =EF=BB=BF > Thanks, Will. A mild sigh while reading it though because history seems to= often forget Jack Hawley's role. Truth is he did not invent it, but he >>= is<< the one that made them and got people to use them (the Xerox Alto's use= d a Hawley Mouse, DEC would use it, E&S used them etc.). As this article po= ints out, he made about 80% of all the mice used in the 1970s: https://www.= oldmouse.com/mouse/hawley/ - certainly the first ones I used at CMU before w= e got the Altos and then after the first Alto's appeared. =20 >=20 > Tek's Magnolia used a flavor of the Hawley mouse in 1979 [the ones with bu= ttons horizontal/parallel to the 'body' - the original Alto mouse the button= s were horizontal and colored), but I don't remember what 3Rivers PascAlto u= sed - I think so, but I don't remember. >=20 >> On Mon, Aug 10, 2020 at 6:50 PM Will Senn wrote: >> All, >>=20 >> About a week ago, Bill English passed away. He was a Xerox guy, who along= with Douglas Engelbart of "Mother of all demos" fame, created our beloved m= ouse: >>=20 >> https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-53638033 >>=20 >> I remember, back in the mid-1980's being part of a focus group evaluating= Microsoft's mouse. Wow, time flies. >>=20 >> -Will >> --=20 >> GPG Fingerprint: 68F4 B3BD 1730 555A 4462 7D45 3EAA 5B6D A982 BAAF --Apple-Mail-0C0B5D9B-627F-4271-BAB8-4CDBEA006F0B Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable The Sun 1 also had a Hawley mouse ( as an e= arly option ), before they switched to the optical. 

Earl 

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On Aug 11, 2020, at 10:03 AM, Clem Cole <= clemc@ccc.com> wrote:

=EF=BB=BF
Thanks, Will. A mild sigh whil= e reading it though because history seems to often forget Jack Hawley's role= .   Truth is he did not invent it, but he >>is<< the o= ne that made them and got people to use them (the Xerox Alto's used a Hawley= Mouse, DEC would use it, E&S used them etc.).  As this article poi= nts out, he made about 80% of all the mice used in the 1970s:  https://www.oldmouse.com/mouse/hawley/  - certa= inly the first ones I used at CMU before we got the Altos and then after the= first Alto's appeared.   

Tek's Magnolia used a= flavor of the Hawley mouse in 1979 [the ones with buttons horizontal/parall= el to the 'body' - the original Alto mouse the buttons were horizontal a= nd colored), but I don't remember what 3Rivers PascAlto used - I think so, b= ut I don't remember.

On Mon, Aug 10, 2020 at 6:50 PM Will Senn <will.senn@gmail.com> wrote:
=20 =20 =20
All,

About a week ago, Bill English passed away. He was a Xerox guy, who along with
Doug= las Engelbart of "Mother of all demos" fame, created our beloved mouse:

https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-53638033

I remember, back in the mid-1980's being part of a focus group evaluating Microsoft's mouse. Wow, time flies.

-Will
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