From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.8 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_INVALID,DKIM_SIGNED, MAILING_LIST_MULTI,T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 14623 invoked from network); 22 Jun 2022 02:16:28 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (50.116.15.146) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 22 Jun 2022 02:16:28 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A008240E6D; Wed, 22 Jun 2022 12:16:24 +1000 (AEST) Received: from gateway2.unifiedlayer.com (gateway2.unifiedlayer.com [74.220.210.130]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 672C340D90 for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2022 12:16:19 +1000 (AEST) Received: from cm6.websitewelcome.com (unknown [108.167.139.19]) by gateway2.unifiedlayer.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A007200986F3 for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2022 21:16:18 -0500 (CDT) Received: from dallas136.arvixeshared.com ([23.91.70.4]) by cmsmtp with ESMTP id 3pukocRdD8f6z3pukoO9jN; Tue, 21 Jun 2022 21:16:18 -0500 X-Authority-Reason: nr=8 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=humeweb.com ; s=default; h=To:References:Message-Id:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Cc:Date: In-Reply-To:From:Subject:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Sender:Reply-To:Content-ID :Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender:Resent-To: Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe:List-Subscribe :List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=5agffxqM+zXiRrCBpJ4tv4XvdNAe8ydzziddlqbSLEg=; b=AFrLMVCVi1TaVlnpgBfmRm27Zd +G8uTupTVfXoYLZ8h/feupJ6/IOph5LTjnA0/pkbEpy6DH1ITmNp234/kuYsMLKh6uxN825ENCrn4 Cu0V73ZeG/3CfVap8CxgIOobT4hQfklBSMW2gv5/48trAuQJqiswSd4a7sa7XK0YlqSU=; Received: from 99-98-248-85.lightspeed.irvnca.sbcglobal.net ([99.98.248.85]:54864 helo=smtpclient.apple) by dallas136.arvixeshared.com with esmtpsa (TLS1.2) tls TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (Exim 4.93) (envelope-from ) id 1o3puk-0015GR-8Q; Tue, 21 Jun 2022 21:16:18 -0500 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 16.0 \(3696.100.31\)) From: Andrew Hume In-Reply-To: <20220622001311.GU26016@mcvoy.com> Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2022 19:16:16 -0700 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <5C595018-6D41-4D19-B99A-F7FA89D962AF@humeweb.com> References: <20220622001311.GU26016@mcvoy.com> To: Larry McVoy X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3696.100.31) X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - dallas136.arvixeshared.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - tuhs.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - humeweb.com X-BWhitelist: no X-Source-IP: 99.98.248.85 X-Source-L: No X-Exim-ID: 1o3puk-0015GR-8Q X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-Source-Sender: 99-98-248-85.lightspeed.irvnca.sbcglobal.net (smtpclient.apple) [99.98.248.85]:54864 X-Source-Auth: andrew@humeweb.com X-Email-Count: 1 X-Source-Cap: YWh1bWU7YWh1bWU7ZGFsbGFzMTM2LmFydml4ZXNoYXJlZC5jb20= X-Local-Domain: yes Message-ID-Hash: REMZHYMKTFNSATTCVDHDMLRZZHJCXLJQ X-Message-ID-Hash: REMZHYMKTFNSATTCVDHDMLRZZHJCXLJQ X-MailFrom: andrew@humeweb.com X-Mailman-Rule-Misses: dmarc-mitigation; no-senders; approved; emergency; loop; banned-address; member-moderation; header-match-tuhs.tuhs.org-0; nonmember-moderation; administrivia; implicit-dest; max-recipients; max-size; news-moderation; no-subject; digests; suspicious-header CC: tuhs@tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 3.3.6b1 Precedence: list Subject: [TUHS] Re: forgotten versions List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list Archived-At: List-Archive: List-Help: List-Owner: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: i joined the labs in 1981. during that first year, i worked on S/NET and did a comparison with data kit (or a direct predecessor). > On Jun 21, 2022, at 5:13 PM, Larry McVoy wrote: > > On Tue, Jun 21, 2022 at 05:56:02PM -0600, Jacob Moody wrote: >> I recently stumbled across the existence of datakit >> when going through the plan9foundation source archives. >> Would be curious to hear more about its involvement >> with plan9. > > Pretty sure datakit predated Plan 9, didn't Greg Chesson work on that? > He was my mentor at SGI, my memory is datakit was sort of early on in > his career and then he did XTP, which nobody knows about but I believe > is still used by the military. > > Unless the early Bell Labs datakit and the Plan 9 datakit are different > things.