From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.1 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_SIGNED,DKIM_VALID, DKIM_VALID_AU,HTML_MESSAGE,MAILING_LIST_MULTI,T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 3279 invoked from network); 21 Dec 2023 03:56:47 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (50.116.15.146) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 21 Dec 2023 03:56:47 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2992F43F14; Thu, 21 Dec 2023 13:56:44 +1000 (AEST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=tuhs.org; s=dkim; t=1703131004; h=from:from:reply-to:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date: message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version: content-type:content-type:in-reply-to:in-reply-to: references:references:list-id:list-help:list-owner:list-unsubscribe: list-subscribe:list-post; bh=drJSU0b7KBWaBNjZYxY1VhtvZmQ4xCuHlAWjERDC2tA=; b=YE1e2CKyLYa5BcLQFhR0E9891Q9OUjGOUPkdCmBlUTVAPfZZxq/9H9kerfsbSXZGxSb7nL fC5C7e0rZoaW5XgtbZZzPY0a+miXjjYiZC98TDnqa9vX6JnNyL9zPVuyZG9fXCODXk8jEM 1jNWz7cUPBksRLUv9IBrcJTim6nwTjM= Received: from qs51p00im-qukt01072101.me.com (qs51p00im-qukt01072101.me.com [17.57.155.10]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A2C7E43EFD for ; Thu, 21 Dec 2023 13:56:35 +1000 (AEST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=mac.com; s=1a1hai; t=1703130995; bh=drJSU0b7KBWaBNjZYxY1VhtvZmQ4xCuHlAWjERDC2tA=; h=Content-Type:Mime-Version:Subject:From:Date:Message-Id:To; b=FaP0Btnq0lmmfy7t43N66icigPs3Qwnzz52e17n0uNsAZUwW2kQxCnC7/j7v9/ZL2 fp22PaVg92NcKxUW7C+vtdDXZ/grWx7OpE466jYJW7WYA1aUa9uPxCoAMHTnfGSyku RUHFdh+xYfWADsG7G6nhmU+wFWskLD5J1Jg1V+MBTjC9kNtT1/uq+VJPaW77+ZuNe/ mor1iYQ5581QIrpIPI9Fi4KRRSN946mkUwCUqHsvJxVykwzOqmipdbxi28pfqGavuD e1GgINnX7gx0ATJbaxcXc0bRHnMdJMs2qCKNBiUxnR1EMeA5WCwov2lZrJhgwWvJMt +S85PMeSg8mfg== Received: from smtpclient.apple (qs51p00im-dlb-asmtp-mailmevip.me.com [17.57.155.28]) by qs51p00im-qukt01072101.me.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 6852B40203; Thu, 21 Dec 2023 03:56:34 +0000 (UTC) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_65BD2C48-D2D7-48CB-8B6B-C30225367D27" Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 16.0 \(3774.300.61.1.2\)) In-Reply-To: Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2023 22:56:32 -0500 Message-Id: <5DAD2EB4-DC7C-49B4-A703-FF8AF25A54ED@mac.com> References: To: Douglas McIlroy X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3774.300.61.1.2) X-Proofpoint-ORIG-GUID: PnfRhlG-nzRIwZ-yFe85nR4HleDlHvoO X-Proofpoint-GUID: PnfRhlG-nzRIwZ-yFe85nR4HleDlHvoO X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=baseguard engine=ICAP:2.0.272,Aquarius:18.0.997,Hydra:6.0.619,FMLib:17.11.176.26 definitions=2023-12-20_15,2023-12-20_01,2023-05-22_02 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 bulkscore=0 clxscore=1011 malwarescore=0 mlxscore=0 phishscore=0 suspectscore=0 mlxlogscore=999 adultscore=0 spamscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=8.19.0-2308100000 definitions=main-2312210027 Message-ID-Hash: AN6BRPPM3F7INB57KBENKL4DRR553OUO X-Message-ID-Hash: AN6BRPPM3F7INB57KBENKL4DRR553OUO X-MailFrom: norwayjose@mac.com X-Mailman-Rule-Misses: dmarc-mitigation; no-senders; approved; emergency; loop; banned-address; member-moderation; nonmember-moderation; administrivia; implicit-dest; max-recipients; max-size; news-moderation; no-subject; digests; suspicious-header CC: TUHS main list X-Mailman-Version: 3.3.6b1 Precedence: list Subject: [TUHS] Re: Loud machines (was Compatibility Question) List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list Archived-At: List-Archive: List-Help: List-Owner: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: From: Rod Bartlett via TUHS Reply-To: Rod Bartlett X-Spam: Yes --Apple-Mail=_65BD2C48-D2D7-48CB-8B6B-C30225367D27 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Those old GE card readers were wicked fast. The occasional card jams = took a while to recover from since they would jam so many cards into a = tiny space meant to hold a single card. To tell the truth, I never noticed the sound level much because the line = printers were so much louder. - Rod > On Dec 19, 2023, at 11:11=E2=80=AFPM, Douglas McIlroy = wrote: >=20 > > Paul -- you left out the other "feature" -- the noise, which was = still deafening even with a model N1 and its cover.=20 >=20 > It was indeed loud, but GE out-roared them with a blindingly fast card = reader. The machine had a supposedly gentle touch; it grabbed cards with = vacuum rather than tongs. But the make-and-break pneumatic explosions = sounded like a machine gun. A noise meter I borrowed from the Labs' tool = crib read 90db 6 feet away. >=20 > Doug --Apple-Mail=_65BD2C48-D2D7-48CB-8B6B-C30225367D27 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Those old GE = card readers were wicked fast.  The occasional card jams took a = while to recover from since they would jam so many cards into a tiny = space meant to hold a single card.

To tell the truth, = I never noticed the sound level much because the line printers were so = much louder.

 - Rod

On Dec 19, 2023, at 11:11=E2=80=AFPM, Douglas McIlroy = <douglas.mcilroy@dartmouth.edu> wrote:

> Paul -- you = left out the other "feature" -- the noise, which was still deafening = even with a model N1 and its cover. 

It was indeed = loud, but GE out-roared them with a blindingly fast card reader. The = machine had a supposedly gentle touch; it grabbed cards with vacuum = rather than tongs. But the make-and-break pneumatic explosions sounded = like a machine gun. A noise meter I borrowed from the Labs' tool crib = read 90db 6 feet away.

Doug

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