From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.8 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_INVALID,DKIM_SIGNED, MAILING_LIST_MULTI,T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 13245 invoked from network); 3 Jul 2022 15:32:18 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (50.116.15.146) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 3 Jul 2022 15:32:18 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED2D040D60; Mon, 4 Jul 2022 01:32:05 +1000 (AEST) Received: from mail-oa1-f46.google.com (mail-oa1-f46.google.com [209.85.160.46]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DD9D640CA4 for ; Mon, 4 Jul 2022 01:31:57 +1000 (AEST) Received: by mail-oa1-f46.google.com with SMTP id 586e51a60fabf-10be7325c29so2783544fac.0 for ; Sun, 03 Jul 2022 08:31:57 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=iitbombay-org.20210112.gappssmtp.com; s=20210112; h=mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to; bh=pN/A7y/uML72A2IFkOQmlk06Q9WKjcC/zfjO+ga7h20=; b=s4YmcK+pnhCCtHqU8x7D6cbRmuhxz3U4VVx63c45DJ8wCc84Rf0Si7pq+aC4wgZIi7 LNcxbzfBectnj/fQa+bgpZtIx0uy/DjLeooWKNySyODEqR1gZhJirrHK14bdEcM7Q7Vq zyRzXJyOIkTTP/CrOAcFGdlMHHMQsmE+VIxoCC105b2Lsz+DFxCc4oNgNFg/SkULENVx Bns4jQIsVj1QS2sEVDAHKfHH6PsPl00Mk/uDvzWtSKurGW3Zo+d783dz+ysmbxcyKe7s 7OVdL79YPg6YgDY7+Qq+UG5LOBEdSXzPcnxPBesz52ZqUUU3qmERK9oxqvuliKwolyAu YF3Q== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to; bh=pN/A7y/uML72A2IFkOQmlk06Q9WKjcC/zfjO+ga7h20=; b=0iMC2RR2LmV62DVNLRAH4/9WxWlObn85anIZ/S4S7J5fg4hzVy0hMM+sC/BH8j+0Re dWL0nobpGAAezKf8yCkmu7+ySCRDPFagoQsl6c8kpeb7381EWJSwuVGbW8orloMwi9eW 6/nagYvjOvRysSGqfkzOA7BI2MLOt4UFROyiIYyVcKxXMKHsTnmVAPtGVjTphPgFyzAt b7L0MOQs93AlC1G4pjpbEp1R8i2ZcKjxDztmU0l8NEUdugZnBoxDWG7lefc2ehAk9t96 7fDyMhe7t7Nqjp94HYhUA57keVftPdo76AJazhi4MsrYdXtZGXzvqJefsJnIbjbNvjut wwxQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AJIora9NvmGOX7+dVA8lm0SfoddGiI3WHry3Z+aZNkuJ2UK/tpNmx7sO uMw7+eW2d5GioHolpNfOwPtCTA== X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGRyM1vQgGlDD9+VOojLsG3oTvRwFXzLQFStYThDxTPSdK+HXmXFy5HfDkguGQpkRFLgB8d9HzD6Og== X-Received: by 2002:a05:6870:d599:b0:101:652e:fae0 with SMTP id u25-20020a056870d59900b00101652efae0mr14773782oao.285.1656862257127; Sun, 03 Jul 2022 08:30:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtpclient.apple (99-8-241-158.lightspeed.snantx.sbcglobal.net. [99.8.241.158]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id 4-20020a544184000000b0032f75714af1sm13489753oiy.18.2022.07.03.08.30.55 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-ECDSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Sun, 03 Jul 2022 08:30:56 -0700 (PDT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 16.0 \(3696.100.31\)) From: Bakul Shah In-Reply-To: Date: Sun, 3 Jul 2022 10:30:53 -0500 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <5E49BE69-8869-473A-B3F5-6744566700F0@iitbombay.org> References: <20220702210244.GU11191@mcvoy.com> <20220703022743.GA15738@mcvoy.com> <20220703143906.GD18597@mcvoy.com> To: Clem Cole X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3696.100.31) Message-ID-Hash: RU7MDVIEHJLOIJK35CMRTYJKZEJ3B2TO X-Message-ID-Hash: RU7MDVIEHJLOIJK35CMRTYJKZEJ3B2TO X-MailFrom: bakul@iitbombay.org X-Mailman-Rule-Misses: dmarc-mitigation; no-senders; approved; emergency; loop; banned-address; member-moderation; header-match-tuhs.tuhs.org-0; nonmember-moderation; administrivia; implicit-dest; max-recipients; max-size; news-moderation; no-subject; digests; suspicious-header CC: steve jenkin , TUHS , Marc Donner X-Mailman-Version: 3.3.6b1 Precedence: list Subject: [TUHS] Re: Thoughts on Licenses List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list Archived-At: List-Archive: List-Help: List-Owner: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: On Jul 3, 2022, at 9:59 AM, Clem Cole wrote: >=20 > I agree with your observation BTW, but I will point out that every = server based on Intel Si runs a V7 flavor called Minux in the IPMI node. You may be thinking of MINIX 1. It was a from-scratch implementation = that was syscall compatible with V7 but IIRC it didn't have any sort of = memory protection as it was designed to run on 8088. What runs on the = Intel Management Engine is MINIX 3, a =C2=B5kernel design with NetBSD = userland. As Prof. Tanenbaum said, "MINIX 1 and MINIX 3 are related in = the same way as Windows 3.1 and Windows XP are: same first name".=