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From: Andy Kosela <akosela@andykosela.com>
To: rminnich@gmail.com
Cc: tuhs@tuhs.org
Subject: Re: [TUHS] cat -v and other complaints
Date: Thu, 06 Sep 2018 23:55:52 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <5b91a268.lXqMJkXVvoGUv0XA%akosela@andykosela.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAP6exYJVvCZP5_psdLQWN+pSN4i5jyCU65QqBbH_G06f3dhRkA@mail.gmail.com>

ron minnich <rminnich@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Thu, Sep 6, 2018 at 1:02 PM Andy Kosela <akosela@andykosela.com> wrote:
>
> > One still cannot ignore the fact that Unix and Plan 9 offer two
> > completely different approaches to displaying text.  I think it also
> > would not be very productive nor it was intended to use Plan 9 without
> > mouse and rio(1).
> >
>
> I spent four years using Plan 9 on the Blue Gene supercomputer (I led the
> team that did the port). I also spent years using it on embedded systems
> with no windowing system at all.
>
> What you're saying does not accord with anything I experienced with Plan 9
> over a dozen year span. I also don't believe your claims are driven by
> experience using Plan 9; am I missing something? What is the basis of your
> statement?

Just from personal experience running Plan 9.  Well, you can't tell me
this system was designed with the idea of running it using text terminal
and no mouse.  There is also no cursor addressing, no curses.  Like I
written before it was born in the different era -- they tried to not
build it on the idea of character based TTY, but rather incorporate
graphical element into it.

If it is possible to be fully productive in Plan 9 using just VGA text
mode (720x400) and not any of the bitmap modes, with Unix like cursor
addressing and with no rio(1) and no mouse then it's something I never
really explored.

--Andy

  reply	other threads:[~2018-09-06 21:56 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 49+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-08-29 14:25 Clem Cole
2018-08-29 22:34 ` Dave Horsfall
2018-08-29 23:36   ` Larry McVoy
2018-08-30  1:14     ` Clem cole
2018-08-30  1:15       ` Clem cole
2018-08-30  2:43       ` Kevin Bowling
2018-08-30  2:59         ` George Michaelson
2018-08-31  0:27         ` Dave Horsfall
2018-08-31  0:41           ` Dan Cross
2018-08-31  1:58             ` Larry McVoy
2018-08-31 11:38           ` ron
2018-08-31 14:41           ` [TUHS] UNIX System names - since UNIX was a Trademark Clem Cole
2018-08-31 15:13             ` Eric Wayte
2018-08-31 15:17             ` William Pechter
2018-08-31 15:25               ` Clem Cole
2018-09-01  0:10               ` John P. Linderman
2018-09-01  0:18                 ` ron
2018-09-01  0:55                   ` Nemo
2018-09-01  7:37                     ` Dave Horsfall
2018-09-01 13:54                       ` Nemo
2018-09-01 17:03                       ` Paul Winalski
2018-09-03  1:14                         ` Robert Brockway
2018-09-30 20:57                 ` Lyndon Nerenberg
2018-10-01 16:26                   ` Paul Winalski
2018-09-01  0:00             ` Dave Horsfall
2018-08-31 21:56 ` [TUHS] cat -v and other complaints Cág
2018-09-01  3:37   ` Andrew Warkentin
2018-09-03 18:04     ` Cág
2018-09-03 18:11       ` Kurt H Maier
2018-09-03 18:56         ` Cág
2018-09-04  6:10           ` Andy Kosela
2018-09-04  6:41             ` ron minnich
2018-09-04  9:34               ` Andy Kosela
2018-09-04 10:23                 ` Dan Cross
2018-09-04 14:22                 ` ron minnich
2018-09-06 20:02                   ` Andy Kosela
2018-09-06 20:49                     ` ron minnich
2018-09-06 21:55                       ` Andy Kosela [this message]
2018-09-07  1:59                         ` Dan Cross
2018-09-07  4:40                           ` Andy Kosela
2018-09-30 21:32           ` Lyndon Nerenberg
2018-09-03 20:08         ` Bakul Shah
2018-09-03 20:41           ` Kurt H Maier
2018-09-03 21:46             ` Bakul Shah
2018-09-04  0:52               ` Kurt H Maier
2018-09-06 20:29 Norman Wilson
2018-09-06 22:16 ` Andy Kosela
2018-09-08 12:02 [TUHS] [TUHS} " Doug McIlroy
2018-09-08 13:36 ` Will Senn
2018-09-08 14:22   ` [TUHS] " Ralph Corderoy
2018-09-08 16:10     ` Arthur Krewat

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