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From: Chet Ramey <chet.ramey@case.edu>
To: John Cowan <cowan@ccil.org>, Steve Nickolas <usotsuki@buric.co>
Cc: The Eunuchs Hysterical Society <tuhs@tuhs.org>
Subject: Re: [TUHS] Style command source available?
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2020 15:42:39 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <5c629889-d4b0-761e-9eb2-76b73ffa097b@case.edu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAD2gp_SudcMNYbz-h4RZURG--nWF-KcLoQxEFy6W4tAqpnt=sg@mail.gmail.com>

On 8/20/20 12:08 PM, John Cowan wrote:
> 
> 
> On Thu, Aug 20, 2020 at 11:55 AM Steve Nickolas <usotsuki@buric.co
> <mailto:usotsuki@buric.co>> wrote:
>  
> 
>     Funny you mention ksh since I've been trying to kitbash ksh93 into being
>     able to compile with make instead of the funky build system it currently
>     uses, without a lot of luck.
> 
> 
> IIRC, Korn used make when developing ksh, but then shipped it with a
> /bin/sh script because it was more portable than make was in those days
> (and still is; there are tools that warn you to use gmake on BSD).  After
> all, a build process (unless it is interrupted) just needs to build, it
> doesn't need to keep track of what has already been built.

He might have started with make for ksh83 and 86, but switched to Fowler's
nmake and then shipped that /bin/sh script in ksh88 for people (everyone,
basically) who didn't have nmake.

> That said, I have no idea what the state of the build process is now.

Changing that was one of the controversial modifications made to ksh93 in
ksh-2020. It's pretty complex.

Here's a paper that describes part of it:

https://www.usenix.org/legacy/publications/library/proceedings/vhll/full_papers/fowler.feature.ps

-- 
``The lyf so short, the craft so long to lerne.'' - Chaucer
		 ``Ars longa, vita brevis'' - Hippocrates
Chet Ramey, UTech, CWRU    chet@case.edu    http://tiswww.cwru.edu/~chet/

  parent reply	other threads:[~2020-08-20 19:43 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-08-20 14:09 Richard Salz
2020-08-20 14:45 ` Jim Geist
2020-08-20 15:14   ` Clem Cole
2020-08-20 15:44     ` Steve Nickolas
2020-08-20 16:08       ` John Cowan
2020-08-20 16:30         ` Steve Nickolas
2020-08-20 16:48           ` John Cowan
2020-08-20 19:42         ` Chet Ramey [this message]
2020-08-20 23:15           ` John Cowan
2020-08-20 23:17             ` Chet Ramey
2020-08-20 23:20             ` Jim Capp
2020-08-21  9:21             ` Harald Arnesen
2020-08-21 14:42               ` John Cowan
2020-08-21 15:17                 ` Steve Nickolas
2020-08-21 15:23                 ` Steffen Nurpmeso

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