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Intel Mac OS X 10.15; rv:68.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/68.11.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Mirapoint-IP-Reputation: reputation=Good-1, source=Queried, refid=tid=0001.0A020301.5F3ED141.003F, actions=tag X-Mirapoint-IP-Reputation: reputation=good-1, source=Fixed, refid=n/a, actions=tag X-Junkmail-Status: score=8/80, host=mpv3-2015.case.edu X-Junkmail-PrAS-Raw: score=8/80, refid=2.7.2:2020.8.20.184817:17:8.707, ip=, rules=__YOUTUBE_RCVD, DKIM_SIGNATURE, __X_GOOGLE_DKIM_SIGNATURE, __HAS_REPLYTO, __HAS_CC_HDR, __MULTIPLE_RCPTS_CC_X2, __CC_NAME, __CC_NAME_DIFF_FROM_ACC, __SUBJ_REPLY, __BOUNCE_CHALLENGE_SUBJ, __BOUNCE_NDR_SUBJ_EXEMPT, __TO_MALFORMED_2, __MULTIPLE_RCPTS_TO_X2, __TO_NAME, __TO_NAME_DIFF_FROM_ACC, __HAS_REFERENCES, __REFERENCES, __HAS_FROM, FROM_EDU_TLD, __HAS_MSGID, __SANE_MSGID, DATE_TZ_NA, __USER_AGENT, __MOZILLA_USER_AGENT, __MIME_VERSION, __IN_REP_TO, __CT, __CT_TEXT_PLAIN, __CTE, __REPLYTO_SAMEAS_FROM_ADDY, __REPLYTO_SAMEAS_FROM_ACC, __FROM_DOMAIN_IN_ANY_CC2, __REPLYTO_SAMEAS_FROM_DOMAIN, __DKIM_ALIGNS_1, __DKIM_ALIGNS_2, __URI_HAS_HYPHEN_USC, __ANY_URI, __URI_MAILTO, __HTTPS_URI, __URI_WITH_PATH, __URI_ENDS_IN_SLASH, CO_TLD, __CP_URI_IN_BODY, __SUBJ_ALPHA_NEGATE, __COURIER_PHRASE, __MULTIPLE_URI_TEXT, __URI_IN_BODY, __URI_NOT_IMG, __MAIL_CHAIN, [TRUNCATED], so=2010-03-03 19:42:08, dmn=2016-08-03-0138 Subject: Re: [TUHS] Style command source available? X-BeenThere: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Reply-To: chet.ramey@case.edu Cc: The Eunuchs Hysterical Society Errors-To: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org Sender: "TUHS" On 8/20/20 12:08 PM, John Cowan wrote: > > > On Thu, Aug 20, 2020 at 11:55 AM Steve Nickolas > wrote: >   > > Funny you mention ksh since I've been trying to kitbash ksh93 into being > able to compile with make instead of the funky build system it currently > uses, without a lot of luck. > > > IIRC, Korn used make when developing ksh, but then shipped it with a > /bin/sh script because it was more portable than make was in those days > (and still is; there are tools that warn you to use gmake on BSD).  After > all, a build process (unless it is interrupted) just needs to build, it > doesn't need to keep track of what has already been built. He might have started with make for ksh83 and 86, but switched to Fowler's nmake and then shipped that /bin/sh script in ksh88 for people (everyone, basically) who didn't have nmake. > That said, I have no idea what the state of the build process is now. Changing that was one of the controversial modifications made to ksh93 in ksh-2020. It's pretty complex. Here's a paper that describes part of it: https://www.usenix.org/legacy/publications/library/proceedings/vhll/full_papers/fowler.feature.ps -- ``The lyf so short, the craft so long to lerne.'' - Chaucer ``Ars longa, vita brevis'' - Hippocrates Chet Ramey, UTech, CWRU chet@case.edu http://tiswww.cwru.edu/~chet/