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* [TUHS] John Lions: 3 sabbaticals at Bell Labs. 1978 and which other years? 1989?
@ 2022-10-12 21:03 steve jenkin
  2022-10-13 13:08 ` [TUHS] " John P. Linderman
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 4+ messages in thread
From: steve jenkin @ 2022-10-12 21:03 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: TUHS

Berkeley Tague says he invited John to work with the USG in 1978 
	[ AUUG, below. Also by Ronda Hauben in multiple places ]

	[ In two ‘recollections’ / history docs sourced from UNSW, ]
	[ the first visit was misremembered as 1976 or 1977. ]

I was wondering when John's two other sabbaticals to Bells Labs were.

The Peter Ivanov interview with John in “Unix Review”, 1985, notes two sabbaticals by then.

	After writing the celebrated Commentary on the UNIX Operating System in 1976, 
	Lions was asked to spend two sabbaticals at the Labs.

This comment in 2000 on “9fans” from Rob Pike
says John also visited in 1989, 
but sadly his work by then had been affected.

	<https://marc.info/?l=9fans&m=144372955601968&w=2>

Anyone know when the other visit was?

Presumably 1983 or 1984 if John took a semester off every 5 years.

========

In AUUGN Oct 1995, V16 #5, there’s a collection of emails, an ‘interview’ with John

	PDF pages 17 & 24
	<https://www.tuhs.org/Archive/Documentation/AUUGN/AUUGN-V16.5.pdf> 

Berkeley Tague says in 1978 he invited John to work with the USG.

then
	He wanted to come to Murray Hill for his sabbatical so it was a win/win situation. 
	He spent two or three summers at Bell Labs over the years 
	and supplied us with many of his graduate students 
	for sabbaticals and permanent employment.

Later:

AUUGN:
	What have been the professional highlights of your career?

JL:
	For myself, three sabbaticals at Bell Laboratories have been highlights. 
	For my students, opportunities arose for employment at the Laboratories.

========

--
Steve Jenkin, IT Systems and Design 
0412 786 915 (+61 412 786 915)
PO Box 38, Kippax ACT 2615, AUSTRALIA

mailto:sjenkin@canb.auug.org.au http://members.tip.net.au/~sjenkin


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* [TUHS] Re: John Lions: 3 sabbaticals at Bell Labs. 1978 and which other years? 1989?
  2022-10-12 21:03 [TUHS] John Lions: 3 sabbaticals at Bell Labs. 1978 and which other years? 1989? steve jenkin
@ 2022-10-13 13:08 ` John P. Linderman
  2022-10-13 13:20   ` Luther Johnson
  2022-10-13 20:06   ` Steve Jenkin
  0 siblings, 2 replies; 4+ messages in thread
From: John P. Linderman @ 2022-10-13 13:08 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: steve jenkin; +Cc: TUHS

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I can put a bound on John's early 80's sabbatical. John stayed at my house
in Berkeley Heights (an easy walk to Murray Hill) while he was looking for
a place to rent when Marianne joined him. I bought the house in 1980, so it
had to be later than that. And John put us up when we visited Australia in
1983, so it was before that. I'm guessing 1982, but that's just a guess.

On Wed, Oct 12, 2022 at 5:05 PM steve jenkin <sjenkin@canb.auug.org.au>
wrote:

> Berkeley Tague says he invited John to work with the USG in 1978
>         [ AUUG, below. Also by Ronda Hauben in multiple places ]
>
>         [ In two ‘recollections’ / history docs sourced from UNSW, ]
>         [ the first visit was misremembered as 1976 or 1977. ]
>
> I was wondering when John's two other sabbaticals to Bells Labs were.
>
> The Peter Ivanov interview with John in “Unix Review”, 1985, notes two
> sabbaticals by then.
>
>         After writing the celebrated Commentary on the UNIX Operating
> System in 1976,
>         Lions was asked to spend two sabbaticals at the Labs.
>
> This comment in 2000 on “9fans” from Rob Pike
> says John also visited in 1989,
> but sadly his work by then had been affected.
>
>         <https://marc.info/?l=9fans&m=144372955601968&w=2>
>
> Anyone know when the other visit was?
>
> Presumably 1983 or 1984 if John took a semester off every 5 years.
>
> ========
>
> In AUUGN Oct 1995, V16 #5, there’s a collection of emails, an ‘interview’
> with John
>
>         PDF pages 17 & 24
>         <https://www.tuhs.org/Archive/Documentation/AUUGN/AUUGN-V16.5.pdf>
>
>
> Berkeley Tague says in 1978 he invited John to work with the USG.
>
> then
>         He wanted to come to Murray Hill for his sabbatical so it was a
> win/win situation.
>         He spent two or three summers at Bell Labs over the years
>         and supplied us with many of his graduate students
>         for sabbaticals and permanent employment.
>
> Later:
>
> AUUGN:
>         What have been the professional highlights of your career?
>
> JL:
>         For myself, three sabbaticals at Bell Laboratories have been
> highlights.
>         For my students, opportunities arose for employment at the
> Laboratories.
>
> ========
>
> --
> Steve Jenkin, IT Systems and Design
> 0412 786 915 (+61 412 786 915)
> PO Box 38, Kippax ACT 2615, AUSTRALIA
>
> mailto:sjenkin@canb.auug.org.au http://members.tip.net.au/~sjenkin
>
>

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* [TUHS] Re: John Lions: 3 sabbaticals at Bell Labs. 1978 and which other years? 1989?
  2022-10-13 13:08 ` [TUHS] " John P. Linderman
@ 2022-10-13 13:20   ` Luther Johnson
  2022-10-13 20:06   ` Steve Jenkin
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 4+ messages in thread
From: Luther Johnson @ 2022-10-13 13:20 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: John P. Linderman; +Cc: tuhs

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One clue is that "The Second Pass of the Portable C Compiler" is dated 
June 1979 and says on the title page, "John Lions, Bell Laboratories, 
Murray Hill, New Jersey", so he must have been there then.

On 10/13/2022 06:08 AM, John P. Linderman wrote:
> I can put a bound on John's early 80's sabbatical. John stayed at my 
> house in Berkeley Heights (an easy walk to Murray Hill) while he was 
> looking for a place to rent when Marianne joined him. I bought the 
> house in 1980, so it had to be later than that. And John put us up 
> when we visited Australia in 1983, so it was before that. I'm guessing 
> 1982, but that's just a guess.
>
> On Wed, Oct 12, 2022 at 5:05 PM steve jenkin <sjenkin@canb.auug.org.au 
> <mailto:sjenkin@canb.auug.org.au>> wrote:
>
>     Berkeley Tague says he invited John to work with the USG in 1978
>             [ AUUG, below. Also by Ronda Hauben in multiple places ]
>
>             [ In two ‘recollections’ / history docs sourced from UNSW, ]
>             [ the first visit was misremembered as 1976 or 1977. ]
>
>     I was wondering when John's two other sabbaticals to Bells Labs were.
>
>     The Peter Ivanov interview with John in “Unix Review”, 1985, notes
>     two sabbaticals by then.
>
>             After writing the celebrated Commentary on the UNIX
>     Operating System in 1976,
>             Lions was asked to spend two sabbaticals at the Labs.
>
>     This comment in 2000 on “9fans” from Rob Pike
>     says John also visited in 1989,
>     but sadly his work by then had been affected.
>
>             <https://marc.info/?l=9fans&m=144372955601968&w=2>
>
>     Anyone know when the other visit was?
>
>     Presumably 1983 or 1984 if John took a semester off every 5 years.
>
>     ========
>
>     In AUUGN Oct 1995, V16 #5, there’s a collection of emails, an
>     ‘interview’ with John
>
>             PDF pages 17 & 24
>            
>     <https://www.tuhs.org/Archive/Documentation/AUUGN/AUUGN-V16.5.pdf>
>
>     Berkeley Tague says in 1978 he invited John to work with the USG.
>
>     then
>             He wanted to come to Murray Hill for his sabbatical so it
>     was a win/win situation.
>             He spent two or three summers at Bell Labs over the years
>             and supplied us with many of his graduate students
>             for sabbaticals and permanent employment.
>
>     Later:
>
>     AUUGN:
>             What have been the professional highlights of your career?
>
>     JL:
>             For myself, three sabbaticals at Bell Laboratories have
>     been highlights.
>             For my students, opportunities arose for employment at the
>     Laboratories.
>
>     ========
>
>     --
>     Steve Jenkin, IT Systems and Design
>     0412 786 915 (+61 412 786 915)
>     PO Box 38, Kippax ACT 2615, AUSTRALIA
>
>     mailto:sjenkin@canb.auug.org.au <mailto:sjenkin@canb.auug.org.au>
>     http://members.tip.net.au/~sjenkin
>     <http://members.tip.net.au/%7Esjenkin>
>


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* [TUHS] Re: John Lions: 3 sabbaticals at Bell Labs. 1978 and which other years? 1989?
  2022-10-13 13:08 ` [TUHS] " John P. Linderman
  2022-10-13 13:20   ` Luther Johnson
@ 2022-10-13 20:06   ` Steve Jenkin
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 4+ messages in thread
From: Steve Jenkin @ 2022-10-13 20:06 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: TUHS

John,

1982 fits with John starting at UNSW in August 1972 and being eligible for 26-weeks Sabbatical every 5 years.

The Unix Review article in 1985 was quite clear Dr Lions had been at Bell Labs twice on Sabbatical.

Leaving the June 1979 paper mentioned by Luther Johnson to be explained. Perhaps Recreation leave, not Sabbatical.

best regards
steve j

> On 14 Oct 2022, at 00:08, John P. Linderman <jpl.jpl@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> I can put a bound on John's early 80's sabbatical. John stayed at my house in Berkeley Heights (an easy walk to Murray Hill) while he was looking for a place to rent when Marianne joined him.
> I bought the house in 1980, so it had to be later than that.
> And John put us up when we visited Australia in 1983, so it was before that.
> I'm guessing 1982, but that's just a guess.

--
Steve Jenkin, IT Systems and Design 
0412 786 915 (+61 412 786 915)
PO Box 38, Kippax ACT 2615, AUSTRALIA

mailto:sjenkin@canb.auug.org.au http://members.tip.net.au/~sjenkin


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