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From: Peter Yardley <peter.martin.yardley@gmail.com>
To: Paul Ruizendaal <pnr@planet.nl>
Cc: "tuhs@tuhs.org" <tuhs@tuhs.org>
Subject: [TUHS] Re: On the uniqueness of DMR's C compiler
Date: Fri, 31 May 2024 22:21:03 +1000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <601CEA28-C64A-4BF3-AC7A-245ED4E653EA@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4CB7B6B4-DF24-43EE-91F2-0C1CCBEB91E3@planet.nl>

I believe the Nova became a Mil Std instruction set (proven without hazard). Its architecture was pretty simple.

We sold ours to the Navy.

> On 31 May 2024, at 10:00 PM, Paul Ruizendaal <pnr@planet.nl> wrote:
> 
> I’m further looking into BCPL / B / C family compilers on 16-bit mini-computers prior to 1979.
> 
> Lot’s of interesting stuff. BCPL was extended with structures at least twice and plenty struggle with (un)scaled pointers. It seems that the Nova was a much easier target than the PDP-11, with a simpler code generator sufficing to generate quality code. I’ll report more fully when I’m further along with my review.
> 
>> On May 8, 2024, at 5:51 PM, Clem Cole <clemc@ccc.com> wrote:
>> 
>> IIRC, Mike Malcom and the team built a true B compiler so they could develop Thoth.   As the 11/40 was one of the original Thoth target systems,  I would have expected that to exist, but I have never used it.
> 
> Yes, they did. I’m working through the various papers on Thoth and the Eh / Zed compilers (essentially B with tweaks). I’ve requested pdf’s of two theses that are only on micro-fiche from the Uni of Waterloo library, hopefully this is possible. The original target machines were Honeywell 6060, DG Nova, Microdata 1600/30 and TI-990. The latter is close enough to a PDP-11. This compiler is from 1976.
> 
> I’ve browsed around for surviving Thoth source code, but it would seem to be lost. Does anyone know of surviving Thoth bits?
> 
> 

Peter Yardley
peter.martin.yardley@gmail.com


  reply	other threads:[~2024-05-31 12:21 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-05-07 20:59 [TUHS] " Paul Ruizendaal
2024-05-07 22:07 ` [TUHS] " Rob Pike
2024-05-08  9:35   ` Paul Ruizendaal
2024-05-08 13:12     ` Rob Pike
2024-05-08 15:51     ` Clem Cole
2024-05-08 16:07       ` Jon Forrest
2024-05-08 17:49         ` Tom Perrine
2024-05-08 17:05       ` Adam Sampson
2024-05-08 17:45       ` Al Kossow
2024-05-08 18:12         ` Clem Cole
2024-05-08 18:12           ` Clem Cole
2024-05-09  1:27           ` Lawrence Stewart
2024-05-31 12:00       ` Paul Ruizendaal
2024-05-31 12:21         ` Peter Yardley [this message]
2024-05-08 11:09 ` Michael Kjörling
2024-05-09 20:40 ` Paul Ruizendaal via TUHS
2024-05-09 20:57   ` Al Kossow
2024-05-08 18:29 Douglas McIlroy
2024-05-10 17:28 ` Paul Winalski
2024-05-11  9:16   ` Ralph Corderoy
2024-05-11 13:42   ` G. Branden Robinson
     [not found] <171519201646.4052234.694570138790187562@minnie.tuhs.org>
2024-05-09  3:39 ` Paul McJones
2024-05-09  3:46   ` Warner Losh
     [not found] <171535904627.4052234.5321502833323676423@minnie.tuhs.org>
2024-05-10 18:55 ` Paul McJones

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