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From: krewat@kilonet.net (Arthur Krewat)
Subject: [TUHS] long lived programs
Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2018 18:46:55 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <60721fb1-d71b-1790-b2b6-d83453ef4dff@kilonet.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAC20D2PfGSsv_EwxOHAmx=LrXwcdxMYSLUQ3mBX6bQ4RgtY20w@mail.gmail.com>

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On 4/5/2018 5:23 PM, Clem Cole wrote:
> Case folding I find funnier however. Back in the days of 5 and 6 bit 
> codes, particularly when file names were stored in things like rad50 
> it made perfect sense.   The basic character code did not handle upper 
> and lower well, and many keyboards were only one case anyway.   But by 
> the time of the 8 bit byte, CP/M and it's child DOS, blindly follow 
> along.  Instead of thinking why it was done and since we have a new 
> file system format and thinking -- hmmm maybe we don't need to have 
> the same limitation.
>

I come from the world of SIXBIT on TOPS-10. One of my first tasks for 
LIRICS/BOCES was to write a replacement for MIC, while still in High 
School. The TTY I used did only upper case. So all the comments in that 
source code were in upper case.

When it came to real ASCII, and keyboard input, you could never assume 
that the TTY was going to give you lower case by default (or upper, for 
that matter). What to do? Be case-insensitive in everything you do.

While I understand the simplicity of the code that had to deal with 
filenames in UNIX (no flipping bits), I don't understand why a file 
README.TXT is different than readme.txt in UNIX.

Now, I love UNIX - I wouldn't have it any other way, but I often wonder 
what the design goal was. As for a "limitation" for case-sensitive file 
names, it's more like a feature to me.

art k.



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  parent reply	other threads:[~2018-04-05 22:46 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-04-05 21:03 Norman Wilson
2018-04-05 21:23 ` Clem Cole
2018-04-05 21:38   ` Bakul Shah
2018-04-06  2:03     ` Random832
2018-04-06  4:27       ` Warner Losh
2018-04-06  4:31         ` Jon Steinhart
2018-04-06  4:58         ` Steve Nickolas
2018-04-06  5:02           ` Jon Steinhart
2018-04-06  4:29       ` Steve Johnson
2018-04-06  5:57       ` Bakul Shah
2018-04-06 21:52         ` Peter Jeremy
2018-04-05 22:46   ` Arthur Krewat [this message]
2018-04-05 23:23   ` Paul Winalski
2018-04-05 23:33     ` Arthur Krewat
2018-04-06  0:05       ` Toby Thain
2018-04-06  4:51 ` Dave Horsfall
2018-04-06 15:00 ` Tony Finch
2018-04-07 20:41 ` Paul Winalski
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2018-04-06 22:33 Doug McIlroy
2018-04-07  1:01 ` Paul Winalski
2018-04-07  1:09   ` Larry McVoy
2018-03-23 18:27 [TUHS] long lived programs (was Re: RIP John Backus Bakul Shah
2018-03-23 20:50 ` [TUHS] long lived programs Steve Johnson
2018-03-23 21:07   ` Clem Cole
2018-03-23 15:51 Ron Natalie
2018-03-23 15:57 ` Clem Cole
2018-03-23 16:25   ` Lars Brinkhoff
2018-03-23 16:59     ` Lawrence Stewart
2018-03-23 17:31       ` Steve Nickolas
2018-03-23 16:32   ` Ron Natalie

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