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X-Mailman-Rule-Misses: dmarc-mitigation; no-senders; approved; emergency; loop; banned-address; member-moderation; header-match-tuhs.tuhs.org-0; nonmember-moderation; administrivia; implicit-dest; max-recipients; max-size; news-moderation; no-subject; digests; suspicious-header CC: TUHS X-Mailman-Version: 3.3.6b1 Precedence: list Subject: [TUHS] Re: ATC'25 is the last ATC? List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list Archived-At: List-Archive: List-Help: List-Owner: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: From: Alan Coopersmith via TUHS Reply-To: Alan Coopersmith X-Spam: Yes On 5/14/25 07:54, Larry McVoy wrote: > On Wed, May 14, 2025 at 09:33:36AM -0400, Theodore Ts'o wrote: >> It's a lot more than that, though. I was at IBM at that time, and at >> IBM, right about then the bonus for getting for getting published at a >> conference had gotten eliminated. It was very clear that as far as >> IBM management was concerned, conference publication didn't matter. >> If you filed a patent, you would get paid a cash bonus. If you submit >> to any conference --- you wouldn't. > > That's wild. To the best of my knowledge, Sun didn't give you a bonus > for either a paper or a patent, it was just part of the job. I started at Sun after you left, and don't know when they started but patent bonuses were common in the 2000's at Sun. They paid up to $2000/person, with a max of $6000/team, when a patent was filed. (Based on a 2004 slide deck encouraging us to file more patents, I never got one to verify. They did emphasize they wanted patents for defensive reasons, including cross-licensing deals, not to attack other companies.) -alan-