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* [TUHS] Question about compiled programs on a newer machine type be usable ?
@ 2025-03-14 22:19 babydr DBA James W. Laferriere
  2025-03-16 23:08 ` [TUHS] " Henry Bent
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 3+ messages in thread
From: babydr DBA James W. Laferriere @ 2025-03-14 22:19 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: tuhs

 	Hello all ,  Here I am again ,  Maybe my ? might be relative to the 
community .

 	I grabbed an archive of precompiled gnu software ,  During the 
extraction I got a 'warning' from a gzip'd tar & decided to dig into the 
underlying tarball to see if it was trully corrupted or repairable .

 	Tada ,  I did a silly and less'd one of the binary files and noticed 
that the underlying file was 'ar'd by /usr/local/alphaev6-dec-osf5.1b/bin/ar , 
well all said and done My ol' as100 ain't a ev6 .

So my Question ,  Could I use these programs that were created on a ev6 cpu 
system on my ev4 ?

 		Tia ,  JimL

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| jiml@system-techniques.com | Fairbanks, AK. 99709 |   only  on  AXP |
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* [TUHS] Re: Question about compiled programs on a newer machine type be usable ?
  2025-03-14 22:19 [TUHS] Question about compiled programs on a newer machine type be usable ? babydr DBA James W. Laferriere
@ 2025-03-16 23:08 ` Henry Bent
  2025-03-16 23:24   ` babydr DBA James W. Laferriere
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 3+ messages in thread
From: Henry Bent @ 2025-03-16 23:08 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: babydr DBA James W. Laferriere; +Cc: tuhs

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On Sun, 16 Mar 2025 at 18:47, babydr DBA James W. Laferriere <
babydr@baby-dragons.com> wrote:

>         Hello all ,  Here I am again ,  Maybe my ? might be relative to
> the
> community .
>
>         I grabbed an archive of precompiled gnu software ,  During the
> extraction I got a 'warning' from a gzip'd tar & decided to dig into the
> underlying tarball to see if it was trully corrupted or repairable .
>
>         Tada ,  I did a silly and less'd one of the binary files and
> noticed
> that the underlying file was 'ar'd by
> /usr/local/alphaev6-dec-osf5.1b/bin/ar ,
> well all said and done My ol' as100 ain't a ev6 .
>
> So my Question ,  Could I use these programs that were created on a ev6
> cpu
> system on my ev4 ?


Under Tru64 any program compiled for any Alpha CPU will run on any other,
but there will be emulation overhead when executing instructions that your
CPU doesn't have.  On a much slower machine this could be pretty painful.
Not sure what you mean by an AS100 - do you have an AS1000?  Or an AS200
4/100?

-Henry

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* [TUHS] Re: Question about compiled programs on a newer machine type be usable ?
  2025-03-16 23:08 ` [TUHS] " Henry Bent
@ 2025-03-16 23:24   ` babydr DBA James W. Laferriere
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 3+ messages in thread
From: babydr DBA James W. Laferriere @ 2025-03-16 23:24 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Henry Bent; +Cc: tuhs

 	Hello Henry ,

On Sun, 16 Mar 2025, Henry Bent wrote:
> On Sun, 16 Mar 2025 at 18:47, babydr DBA James W. Laferriere <
> babydr@baby-dragons.com> wrote:
>
>>         Hello all ,  Here I am again ,  Maybe my ? might be relative to
>> the
>> community .
>>
>>         I grabbed an archive of precompiled gnu software ,  During the
>> extraction I got a 'warning' from a gzip'd tar & decided to dig into the
>> underlying tarball to see if it was trully corrupted or repairable .
>>
>>         Tada ,  I did a silly and less'd one of the binary files and
>> noticed
>> that the underlying file was 'ar'd by
>> /usr/local/alphaev6-dec-osf5.1b/bin/ar ,
>> well all said and done My ol' as100 ain't a ev6 .
>>
>> So my Question ,  Could I use these programs that were created on a ev6
>> cpu
>> system on my ev4 ?
>
> Under Tru64 any program compiled for any Alpha CPU will run on any other,
> but there will be emulation overhead when executing instructions that your
> CPU doesn't have.  On a much slower machine this could be pretty painful.
> Not sure what you mean by an AS100 - do you have an AS1000?  Or an AS200
> 4/100?
>
> -Henry

 	Yes ,  AS200 4/100 ,  Painful I don't need ,  But it's better than 
attempting to find the right combinations of shareable libraries & compiler 
flags are required to cleanly compile most of the gnu stuff .

 	And yes I have been trying mostly unsuccessfully to compile some of the 
tools/utilities I have grown accustomed to on the linux platforms .  Tho I am 
not a fan of rpm .  So ... Off I go again .

 	Tia ,  JimL

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+---------------------------------------------------------------------+
| James   W.   Laferriere    | System    Techniques | Give me VMS     |
| Network & System Engineer  | 3237     Holden Road |  Give me Linux  |
| jiml@system-techniques.com | Fairbanks, AK. 99709 |   only  on  AXP |
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