From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.8 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_INVALID,DKIM_SIGNED, MAILING_LIST_MULTI autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 1924 invoked from network); 12 Oct 2022 07:20:30 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (50.116.15.146) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 12 Oct 2022 07:20:30 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 675A940EF2; Wed, 12 Oct 2022 17:19:55 +1000 (AEST) Received: from mail-pf1-f171.google.com (mail-pf1-f171.google.com [209.85.210.171]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id EE21D40EF2 for ; Wed, 12 Oct 2022 17:19:46 +1000 (AEST) Received: by mail-pf1-f171.google.com with SMTP id p14so11389471pfq.5 for ; Wed, 12 Oct 2022 00:19:46 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=cfcl.com; s=google; h=to:references:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:date:in-reply-to :from:subject:mime-version:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id :reply-to; bh=kcWq1e1XRX03yOptmJwRhOlWw+B0tbMd3Rn33gBUgBQ=; b=eyNYAHreCIHQGucUoEWANTxz4XkNlt2QwimztMW5QeKYIfbTF54GjEyJHErTNqoTOb S9LiVmb1uBNtVOoMTLFuWSQ1A0/gOlmZWKNIKg2VSjFlnKef2L/GyjV+UBkcy3dxJ77w zxJ2o9RbILUbrpNGKoSVaOY9atuWUVIPr5ELyKRZ5NxGfQ+5qDS9/YKdYu/rQF4NhklT tC0EDYab7o11jG++ip835OnkfqEkoj4xYpX9Uxr50KyA+Ux9qnoYJvbndnwOrVJnOruo w71+7Mdmwg9gDa9M0c6sJ44veJVe65eP3o0YSbqsAQtQ+INIUDg9rMAlhCVSev5WzhEM 5r+g== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=to:references:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:date:in-reply-to :from:subject:mime-version:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject :date:message-id:reply-to; bh=kcWq1e1XRX03yOptmJwRhOlWw+B0tbMd3Rn33gBUgBQ=; b=X1QbsTNF1gdicgdlIRasdD8yGAmWCVyhOzWKQWUuV7NDd00Mr6duM60/Ryjg16qHMp dV+hYgK/1LGU/hr3ZlCKe6/445NgEIO1ffWQyFxRi92FNv9k7mAuvKBVLhPZouMz9Ya8 6QoSW/FVs+yI5oTp/HFvEA6aydazevgwKBC8QkT6EWlNxiPp/KAtbEJNWyLA9EhslQDB 2dfQh1wAOb0koRl9/QfZgJXhG3p7ywBbxCOd59rDNP7lTd4GT/j7BH/Q4ObNOCSDWN0t BawOaALcqcOoNg0XwOxXbrA7+O8Ldvz3fMPpK/8FSIViwE/JRMsiAUW/v1jVkpeMBarr Qshg== X-Gm-Message-State: ACrzQf3vef3Smk9rLxeWrX62FqRmsaoZh/a0ieuEXqP56SKmGQUUz9YS kcDqeA3bp5eZEgoMIhEFL+M91TuU/zpDtA== X-Google-Smtp-Source: AMsMyM4qQQTmwCAp1s/5r0NkOR0B497EWRuDh/4mFBP8iPMhuLbj6L0Ru5XB4DrkEgA0q0pj7Jca0w== X-Received: by 2002:a65:5845:0:b0:460:a1d:7d93 with SMTP id s5-20020a655845000000b004600a1d7d93mr18606610pgr.6.1665559126078; Wed, 12 Oct 2022 00:18:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.254.24] ([50.123.72.92]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id p2-20020a634202000000b004393f60db36sm8963050pga.32.2022.10.12.00.18.45 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-ECDSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Wed, 12 Oct 2022 00:18:45 -0700 (PDT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 13.4 \(3608.120.23.2.7\)) From: Rich Morin In-Reply-To: <1e7be6ed-5b2f-41b8-944f-05d1f98e6125@home.arpa> Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2022 00:18:44 -0700 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <62BF9FE1-F664-4CFE-B307-8FA987A14742@cfcl.com> References: <992562BA-E21F-4542-A50B-6CFE8F7ACE86@planet.nl> <20221011134842.GA11780@mcvoy.com> <20221011195447.GI11780@mcvoy.com> <8583490b-c7cc-4633-b506-2f16335fd3e2@home.arpa> <202210120659.29C6xDvY007440@freefriends.org> <1e7be6ed-5b2f-41b8-944f-05d1f98e6125@home.arpa> To: TUHS X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3608.120.23.2.7) Message-ID-Hash: N2S5UJZOJIGXTWVAN72L7V66XJAOQIQ4 X-Message-ID-Hash: N2S5UJZOJIGXTWVAN72L7V66XJAOQIQ4 X-MailFrom: rdm@cfcl.com X-Mailman-Rule-Misses: dmarc-mitigation; no-senders; approved; emergency; loop; banned-address; member-moderation; header-match-tuhs.tuhs.org-0; nonmember-moderation; administrivia; implicit-dest; max-recipients; max-size; news-moderation; no-subject; digests; suspicious-header X-Mailman-Version: 3.3.6b1 Precedence: list Subject: [TUHS] Re: Re.: Princeton's "Unix: An Oral History": who was in the team in "The Attic"? List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list Archived-At: List-Archive: List-Help: List-Owner: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: I recall hearing about a new hire at IBM who was tasked with working on = the JCL processing code. After looking it over, he decided to rewrite = it using compiler-compiler technology. The result worked, was about 250 = KLOC smaller than the original, and was accepted. However, at review time the employee received an absolutely terrible = review. Seems he had generated a really substantial negative amount of = code. Story I heard was that he was soon picked up by IBM Labs... -r