From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.8 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_INVALID,DKIM_SIGNED, MAILING_LIST_MULTI autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 2417 invoked from network); 6 May 2022 08:10:46 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (45.79.103.53) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 6 May 2022 08:10:46 -0000 Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 3CD839D4A9; Fri, 6 May 2022 18:10:42 +1000 (AEST) Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0BB5C9CEEF; Fri, 6 May 2022 18:08:57 +1000 (AEST) Authentication-Results: minnie.tuhs.org; dkim=fail reason="signature verification failed" (2048-bit key; unprotected) header.d=ronnatalie.com header.i=@ronnatalie.com header.b="UQ1GLIv1"; dkim=fail reason="signature verification failed" (2048-bit key; unprotected) header.d=messagingengine.com header.i=@messagingengine.com header.b="y2sfjG1+"; dkim-atps=neutral Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id C73519CEEF; Fri, 6 May 2022 18:08:21 +1000 (AEST) Received: from wnew2-smtp.messagingengine.com (wnew2-smtp.messagingengine.com [64.147.123.27]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 57DB79CEEE for ; Fri, 6 May 2022 18:08:14 +1000 (AEST) Received: from compute3.internal (compute3.nyi.internal [10.202.2.43]) by mailnew.west.internal (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1BDEC2B05636; Fri, 6 May 2022 04:08:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mailfrontend1 ([10.202.2.162]) by compute3.internal (MEProxy); Fri, 06 May 2022 04:08:13 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=ronnatalie.com; h=cc:cc:content-transfer-encoding:content-type:date:date:from :from:in-reply-to:in-reply-to:message-id:mime-version:references :reply-to:sender:subject:subject:to:to; s=fm3; t=1651824492; x= 1651831692; bh=9GNF6lPo0KGQbcT8KmPZ/8baEPLszQ1FNab61EW7t4Q=; b=U Q1GLIv10xZiqS1i7Ozbsw/fjWN3dB+3zZEDwShbJkoCRfh3vbbE7LtPYxPvXxtQH uontcWg9/mqoZN3tot4rNvApvVGsTcRkZIrl1+aQWyT78yf4ng1itlm4nvbWBjLN 4M+BQV4cvL3VGKEdcXQHJocktYUB7O+N2LFGC0Q5ylR+jXE1kjiqJTDvBlLyzwdV yY2eRR942BfYAdUIO8NAvu1R6YPFQgm01JpY87AL5dgaNFSQsgnOSjISlVaWNLRH S+wIynTnuc2zavNSGhNC51T+9QqO7BOFQsT65YNEV3s/HLDQzQ/ZVRgiafaCQodM LtQf7+yFHBlMK2fblCG6Q== DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=cc:cc:content-transfer-encoding :content-type:date:date:from:from:in-reply-to:in-reply-to :message-id:mime-version:references:reply-to:sender:subject :subject:to:to:x-me-proxy:x-me-proxy:x-me-sender:x-me-sender :x-sasl-enc; s=fm1; t=1651824492; x=1651831692; bh=9GNF6lPo0KGQb cT8KmPZ/8baEPLszQ1FNab61EW7t4Q=; b=y2sfjG1+N58KokIAnT0O83grCNYNO 3pLpmZMcwww/7xixmL23vbwAKOV9S378lqlLATbzSTJ0k3JCelYz41tmpsI8PhwY 4D74d0Ja8iOOWnVas0sTHw6stYd5L8wokg1BPKfXiNVpymc6riW7rTdDC4sGcpW3 jxdnpdUDkwb/yQnZSuhZT8PL7yc6oiO0fTyp/6+7qsgoFPHrXYGcajcyX7uHEYgy y1j2+ldQMXfKWQ2DHVpr/IHxWO6aD0pF5pLBraCemqVk0FMwKsuqCJH9+Jes376a khZdQ165tKJvcVsj394LsGpMFDCjhyYL9ROroB5K2YbP2qdtRuq/mZ8QA== X-ME-Sender: X-ME-Received: X-ME-Proxy-Cause: gggruggvucftvghtrhhoucdtuddrgedvfedrfedvgdduvdeiucetufdoteggodetrfdotf fvucfrrhhofhhilhgvmecuhfgrshhtofgrihhlpdfqfgfvpdfurfetoffkrfgpnffqhgen uceurghilhhouhhtmecufedttdenucenucfjughrpegtgffhggfufffkfhevjgfvofesth hqmhdthhdtjeenucfhrhhomheptfhonhcupfgrthgrlhhivgcuoehrohhnsehrohhnnhgr thgrlhhivgdrtghomheqnecuggftrfgrthhtvghrnhepjedvheefkeegheejteffkeevve efgeekhfdtuefgueeileffgeeugfeijeelhfehnecuffhomhgrihhnpehthhgvqdhhrghl vgihshdrohhrghenucevlhhushhtvghrufhiiigvpedtnecurfgrrhgrmhepmhgrihhlfh hrohhmpehrohhnsehrohhnnhgrthgrlhhivgdrtghomh X-ME-Proxy: Received: by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA; Fri, 6 May 2022 04:08:12 -0400 (EDT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: Ron Natalie Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) Date: Fri, 6 May 2022 10:08:09 +0200 Message-Id: <6493122A-B704-4039-8F4C-8C6FEAEC5220@ronnatalie.com> References: <202205060735.2467Z7Rc032121@freefriends.org> In-Reply-To: <202205060735.2467Z7Rc032121@freefriends.org> To: arnold@skeeve.com X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (19E258) Subject: Re: [TUHS] Alternative Implementation Proposal for Unix/370 (BTL, 1979) X-BeenThere: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org, pugs@ieee.org Errors-To: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org Sender: "TUHS" They liked kicking a dead whale down the beach. =20 > On May 6, 2022, at 09:39, arnold@skeeve.com wrote: >=20 > =EF=BB=BFTom Lyon via TUHS wrote: >=20 >> I was (re?)introduced to Chuck Haley recently and discovered he had a cop= y >> of a Bell Labs memo from himself, London, Maranzaro, and Ritchie. They >> suggest that the path pursued to get UNIX running in/under TSS/370 was th= e >> hard way to go. >>=20 >> Enjoy: >> http://charles.the-haleys.org/papers/Alternate_Implementation_Proposal_fo= r_Unix370.pdf >>=20 >>=20 >> --=20 >> - Tom >=20 > So, why, given the letter from these folks, including DMR, did they go > ahead and use the TSS solution anyway? >=20 > Just wondering. >=20 > Arnold