> On Nov 28, 2022, at 4:39 AM, Marc Donner wrote: > > In 1980 I applied to grad schools, including UNC. I had read "The Mythical Man-Month" by then, so I was floored one day sitting in my office when the phone rang and I heard, "This is Fred Brooks." I visited UNC where I saw the famous row of clocks that Steve Bellovin mentions in his memorial post. The only direct interaction I ever had with him, alas, is that he politely declined to come address the Engineering Problem Solving class I was teaching at Duke's TIP one summer. Adam