From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.8 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED, DKIM_INVALID,DKIM_SIGNED,FREEMAIL_FROM,HTML_MESSAGE,MAILING_LIST_MULTI autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 4617 invoked from network); 28 Nov 2022 16:44:06 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (50.116.15.146) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 28 Nov 2022 16:44:06 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F224041BDC; Tue, 29 Nov 2022 02:43:43 +1000 (AEST) Received: from mail-pg1-f182.google.com (mail-pg1-f182.google.com [209.85.215.182]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9E60F41BDB for ; Tue, 29 Nov 2022 02:43:39 +1000 (AEST) Received: by mail-pg1-f182.google.com with SMTP id v3so10435252pgh.4 for ; Mon, 28 Nov 2022 08:43:39 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20210112; h=message-id:in-reply-to:to:references:date:subject:mime-version:from :from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=KFlsVfAoyKODKiDjK7UnoDaXOGqDcmf2wg0r+O3I/4I=; b=qQy6L5nhCWHfkOMpZ7iYEdhdht3hgFRJJI++n/txg7b+zktn1/77fhHOVnpt2xwQNd AqOP/BIWPSlQiJ8/hM8RJMsBlzwwgK2zpVhTdlDLIP/KO+sZFKq9ytJDUieLLyEMXwpf m3bQ6+rEnnZEd0VVVcBZsV/wLYx7ZruOed03xVd6ZwHjWEJJPu6p1CXjck3Sy9TaLc38 BRg6cG+NFZVsp6LqgUME+AAqVSckXQOaGJIkntfvdmj8LjIsMl75tXdNpIM542q2h3EI NZaTz83bTBCgk1neZljav+afz4zKbJuTqTGmelp3LtE1enF1cO0iYB1gwTcEWnXZX70g zoCA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=message-id:in-reply-to:to:references:date:subject:mime-version:from :x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=KFlsVfAoyKODKiDjK7UnoDaXOGqDcmf2wg0r+O3I/4I=; b=2QP5NdRpVpjWaPnQAWholV7/5sbv/h0eYlj4Ijo+SsoW0m1fzv/jOGhHfH1iTuMBjb 46XVlgpwNdpVXVbkYz/KnlEcy9BNAWfdVW33iTDlU6h8Hp986qNd+549HsOGowJuzg34 V0Xum1K19KqEUvhXlfi3xBhwGP1scQTkDLmDczZnGL7z/VAM4uDDLLcaRs8vE/Qdqeb4 Y5P94Q50ITT90hOXVOVrWod2xgjH1m2ys7COB32cs3Te3fJqsUPnT5TagAc6Mxhe5+56 1tyejKScTDP/Tggtb6TqHeve4Faa3GHbYebaIfvk75vVbpyl8ZnnL7sPUVKYeFs96kEJ Hf3Q== X-Gm-Message-State: ANoB5plQQHn3sCwwHJnnrAtXi3fUpdYEcWcvqvSESsfXso9L0RoVemAW W1Ok/0aG5eIzu6XKCQd0u3vApWqgZJA= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AA0mqf6kIVkEhMyH1C4Vd7yt0ONG7IffDSRZjLoWTSF6lcaGs2ybvfPDZjHVr4XviFcHIM4s52KNyg== X-Received: by 2002:a65:5b47:0:b0:477:4eb4:4b6a with SMTP id y7-20020a655b47000000b004774eb44b6amr28444799pgr.531.1669653758488; Mon, 28 Nov 2022 08:42:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtpclient.apple (ip98-165-124-124.ph.ph.cox.net. [98.165.124.124]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id n7-20020a056a00212700b005743cdde1b8sm8223957pfj.127.2022.11.28.08.42.37 for (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-ECDSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Mon, 28 Nov 2022 08:42:37 -0800 (PST) From: Adam Thornton Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_433C3EB5-303E-41A0-B526-F23A7873D7D9" Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 16.0 \(3731.200.110.1.12\)) Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2022 09:42:26 -0700 References: <202211272100.2ARL00ua032601@freefriends.org> To: The Eunuchs Hysterical Society In-Reply-To: Message-Id: <67054FFB-258B-48BA-AE2D-0B86002B7AD3@gmail.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3731.200.110.1.12) Message-ID-Hash: JQMGUA4QOFYH6X7B53ZKCVGSAYFLBGD2 X-Message-ID-Hash: JQMGUA4QOFYH6X7B53ZKCVGSAYFLBGD2 X-MailFrom: athornton@gmail.com X-Mailman-Rule-Misses: dmarc-mitigation; no-senders; approved; emergency; loop; banned-address; member-moderation; header-match-tuhs.tuhs.org-0; nonmember-moderation; administrivia; implicit-dest; max-recipients; max-size; news-moderation; no-subject; digests; suspicious-header X-Mailman-Version: 3.3.6b1 Precedence: list Subject: [TUHS] Re: Fred Brooks died List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list Archived-At: List-Archive: List-Help: List-Owner: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: --Apple-Mail=_433C3EB5-303E-41A0-B526-F23A7873D7D9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > On Nov 28, 2022, at 4:39 AM, Marc Donner = wrote: >=20 > In 1980 I applied to grad schools, including UNC. I had read "The = Mythical Man-Month" by then, so I was floored one day sitting in my = office when the phone rang and I heard, "This is Fred Brooks." I = visited UNC where I saw the famous row of clocks that Steve Bellovin = mentions in his memorial post.=20 The only direct interaction I ever had with him, alas, is that he = politely declined to come address the Engineering Problem Solving class = I was teaching at Duke's TIP one summer. Adam= --Apple-Mail=_433C3EB5-303E-41A0-B526-F23A7873D7D9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii

On Nov = 28, 2022, at 4:39 AM, Marc Donner <marc.donner@gmail.com> = wrote:

In 1980 I = applied to grad schools, including UNC.  I had read "The Mythical = Man-Month" by then, so I was floored one day sitting in my office when = the phone rang and I heard, "This is Fred Brooks."  I visited UNC = where I saw the famous row of clocks that Steve Bellovin mentions in his = memorial post. 

The = only direct interaction I ever had with him, alas, is that he politely = declined to come address the Engineering Problem Solving class I was = teaching at Duke's TIP one = summer.

Adam
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