From: mparson@bl.org (Michael Parson)
Subject: [TUHS] Another "craft" discussion topic - mindless tool proliferation
Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2017 20:53:05 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <68015634ab9d6f3432ef3207fa64934b@bl.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170922003624.GL25650@mcvoy.com>
On 2017-09-21 19:36, Larry McVoy wrote:
> On Fri, Sep 22, 2017 at 10:02:07AM +1000, Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote:
>> On Thursday, 21 September 2017 at 20:39:24 +0200, Steffen Nurpmeso
>> wrote:
>> > Tony Finch <dot at dotat.at> wrote:
>> >
>> >> I think it's a shame that the non-man-page parts of the Unix
>> >> documentation set have been neglected, in that you don't often get
>> >> newer programs following the style of the USD / SMM / PSD guides.
>> >
>> > The problem being that even FreeBSD dropped them from the base
>> > system.
>>
>> There was a good reason for that. To my recollection, they hadn't
>> been maintained At All, and they were decades out of date. While they
>> were interesting for their historical content, as user/programmer
>> documentation they were useless at best and misleading or dangerous at
>> worst.
>
> That's really on the maintainers, it's a shame they haven't kept those
> up to date. Either update them or add to them, there has to be
> something
> worth writing up.
>
> I used to *love* those manuals.
I still love those manuals. The printed set of the BSD manuals were
some of the first books I ordered off the Internet back in the early
1990s. Well worn, but still on my shelf. I learned a lot from them,
including *roff from the URM docs.
I got excited when I first installed NetBSD on my Amiga 3000 and saw
that (most of) those docs were in the tree.
--
Michael Parson
Pflugerville, TX
KF5LGQ
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Thread overview: 54+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2017-09-19 17:01 Jon Steinhart
2017-09-19 17:05 ` Steve Nickolas
2017-09-19 20:31 ` Pete Turnbull
2017-09-19 20:37 ` Warner Losh
2017-09-19 23:35 ` Theodore Ts'o
2017-09-20 0:47 ` Lyndon Nerenberg
2017-09-20 1:02 ` Larry McVoy
2017-09-20 1:09 ` Lyndon Nerenberg
2017-09-20 1:13 ` Larry McVoy
2017-09-20 1:22 ` Larry McVoy
2017-09-20 2:01 ` Larry McVoy
2017-09-20 2:34 ` Bakul Shah
2017-09-20 2:47 ` Larry McVoy
2017-09-20 6:18 ` Bakul Shah
2017-09-20 4:35 ` Grant Taylor
2017-09-20 5:54 ` Ian Zimmerman
2017-09-24 23:03 ` Ralph Corderoy
2017-09-24 23:35 ` Bakul Shah
2017-09-20 16:49 ` Steffen Nurpmeso
2017-09-20 4:29 ` Grant Taylor
2017-09-20 6:43 ` Peter Jeremy
2017-09-20 8:25 ` Bakul Shah
2017-09-20 9:12 ` Steve Nickolas
2017-09-20 9:34 ` Bakul Shah
2017-09-20 16:48 ` Steffen Nurpmeso
2017-09-20 2:07 ` Theodore Ts'o
2017-09-24 22:58 ` Ralph Corderoy
2017-09-20 4:26 ` Grant Taylor
2017-09-20 16:45 ` Steffen Nurpmeso
2017-09-21 17:33 ` Tony Finch
2017-09-21 18:39 ` Steffen Nurpmeso
2017-09-22 0:02 ` Greg 'groggy' Lehey
2017-09-22 0:30 ` Lyndon Nerenberg
2017-09-22 0:38 ` Larry McVoy
2017-09-22 0:39 ` Lyndon Nerenberg
2017-09-22 0:50 ` Larry McVoy
2017-09-22 1:01 ` Lyndon Nerenberg
2017-09-22 1:08 ` Larry McVoy
2017-09-22 20:09 ` [TUHS] remaking make (Re: " Bakul Shah
2017-09-22 2:25 ` [TUHS] " Warner Losh
2017-09-22 3:26 ` Greg 'groggy' Lehey
2017-09-22 4:09 ` ron minnich
2017-09-22 2:20 ` Warner Losh
2017-09-22 0:36 ` Larry McVoy
2017-09-22 0:40 ` Lyndon Nerenberg
2017-09-22 1:53 ` Michael Parson [this message]
2017-09-22 3:25 ` Grant Taylor
2017-09-20 6:20 ` Lars Brinkhoff
2017-09-20 16:39 ` Steffen Nurpmeso
2017-09-24 22:54 ` Ralph Corderoy
2017-09-25 0:16 ` Steve Johnson
2017-09-25 11:30 ` Ralph Corderoy
2017-09-20 18:15 ` Clem Cole
2017-09-20 18:35 ` Jon Steinhart
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