From: clemc@ccc.com (Clem cole)
Subject: [TUHS] What was the first edition of UNIX that left AT&T
Date: Fri, 1 Sep 2017 20:24:31 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <6A1D6BAF-E3B4-4DA2-B198-FD0929232A83@ccc.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <D66F0B83-AC94-4A47-9847-D709D8BAAE27@ccc.com>
I did hear back from Lou Katz - user #1. Indeed the first version that escaped the labs was the 4th edition.
Sent from my PDP-7 Running UNIX V0 expect things to be almost but not quite.
> On Sep 1, 2017, at 7:16 PM, Clem cole <clemc at ccc.com> wrote:
>
> Interesting. If O'Malley had a connection wonder what it was connected too on both sides. It had to be to lbl but the Vdh was a piece of shit even in the ingvax days. The first version was even worse. On the ucb side I wonder. It would not have been Unix because UofI did the original arpanet code and that was for v6. There was never a pdp10 at ucb so I wonder if it was one of the CDC machines which were the primary systems until Unix came to be.
>
> Sent from my PDP-7 Running UNIX V0 expect things to be almost but not quite.
>
>>> On Sep 1, 2017, at 5:59 PM, Jeremy C. Reed <reed at reedmedia.net> wrote:
>>>
>>> On Fri, 1 Sep 2017, Clem Cole wrote:
>>>
>>> So it means that UCB was hacking privately without taking to Katz@ NYU, or
>>> the Columbia and Harvard folks for a while. I need to ask Lou what he
>>> remembers. UCB was not connected to the Arpanet at this point (Stanford
>>> was), so it's possible Ken's sabbatical openned up some channels that had
>>> not existed. [UCB does not get connected until ing70 gets the
>>> vdh-interface up the hill to LBL's IMP as part of the Ingress project and
>>> that was very late in the 70s - not long before I arrived].
>>
>> Allman told me that Mike O'Malley had an ARPA connection at UCB that was
>> axed a few years before the INGRES link. So yes, I think no Arpanet
>> connection during the early BSD development work. (Losing this
>> connection may have had some controversy, but I don't know the details.)
>>
>> Fabry told me that O'Malley used Unix for his (EECS) Artificial
>> Intelligence research projects before he discovered it (so before the
>> October 1973 Symposium).
>>
>> RFC 402 of Oct 1972 has a ARPA network participant Michael O'Malley of
>> University of Michigan Phonetics Laboratory. Also this draft report at
>> http://digitalcollections.library.cmu.edu/awweb/awarchive?type=file&item=355330
>> about the ARPA speech recognition project lists M. H. O'Malley at UCB
>> and says the principle investigator from Univ. of Michigan moved to UCB.
>> (I never go ahold of him to see if had any other relevance to my BSD
>> story.)
>>
>>
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Thread overview: 9+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2017-08-31 22:33 Clem Cole
2017-08-31 23:20 ` Theo Pavlidis
2017-08-31 23:27 ` Warren Toomey
2017-09-01 19:05 ` Jeremy C. Reed
2017-09-01 19:58 ` Clem Cole
2017-09-01 21:59 ` Jeremy C. Reed
[not found] ` <D66F0B83-AC94-4A47-9847-D709D8BAAE27@ccc.com>
2017-09-02 0:24 ` Clem cole [this message]
2017-09-02 1:51 ` Jeremy C. Reed
2017-09-02 2:12 Noel Chiappa
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