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From: fair@netbsd.org (Erik Fair)
Subject: [TUHS] Codata restoration - day 1
Date: Sun, 12 Oct 2014 11:18:12 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <6CD9CF81-CE94-45DA-873E-AC1D79B1B7A1@netbsd.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.BSF.2.00.1410110630110.31844@aneurin.horsfall.org>


On Oct 10, 2014, at 12:55, Dave Horsfall <dave at horsfall.org> wrote:

> I was glad to see the end of the WICATs, because their attempt at System 
> III was woeful; I had to do pre-sales demos, *knowing* that the damned 
> thing would crash on me, and got very good at excuses.  "Sorry guys, we've 
> been having a bit of trouble with this new controller, but we're told 
> it'll be fixed Real Soon Now(tm)" when I knew that it was the poxy OS at 
> fault.  How do you explain to the customer that the OS itself is 
> fundamentally rat-shit?

At Dual Systems, we never shipped AT&T USG System III to our customers, other than a few alphas/betas - it was such a disaster, we spent a year fixing show-stopper bugs in it. By the time we got System III into what we considered "shippable/supportable" shape, System V was out, so we started work on that. Our customers had to jump from v7 to System V, but they were spared System III.

System V was pretty awful too, but it was "industry standard" and we had to put up with that idiocy from AT&T USG. I daily retreated back to the much more pleasant use of BSD UNIX systems at UCB that I still had access to.

	Erik <fair at netbsd.org>




  reply	other threads:[~2014-10-12 18:18 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 8+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-10-10 17:26 Engel, Michael
2014-10-10 18:00 ` Dave Horsfall
2014-10-10 19:21   ` Engel, Michael
2014-10-10 19:55     ` Dave Horsfall
2014-10-12 18:18       ` Erik Fair [this message]
2014-10-11 21:48     ` Clem Cole
2014-10-10 20:13 ` Hans Rosenfeld
2014-10-10 20:37   ` Warner Losh

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