From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: fair@netbsd.org (Erik Fair) Date: Sun, 12 Oct 2014 11:18:12 -0700 Subject: [TUHS] Codata restoration - day 1 In-Reply-To: References: <6EFBDEDF-67F2-4519-97BB-34087757EA09@leedsmet.ac.uk> Message-ID: <6CD9CF81-CE94-45DA-873E-AC1D79B1B7A1@netbsd.org> On Oct 10, 2014, at 12:55, Dave Horsfall wrote: > I was glad to see the end of the WICATs, because their attempt at System > III was woeful; I had to do pre-sales demos, *knowing* that the damned > thing would crash on me, and got very good at excuses. "Sorry guys, we've > been having a bit of trouble with this new controller, but we're told > it'll be fixed Real Soon Now(tm)" when I knew that it was the poxy OS at > fault. How do you explain to the customer that the OS itself is > fundamentally rat-shit? At Dual Systems, we never shipped AT&T USG System III to our customers, other than a few alphas/betas - it was such a disaster, we spent a year fixing show-stopper bugs in it. By the time we got System III into what we considered "shippable/supportable" shape, System V was out, so we started work on that. Our customers had to jump from v7 to System V, but they were spared System III. System V was pretty awful too, but it was "industry standard" and we had to put up with that idiocy from AT&T USG. I daily retreated back to the much more pleasant use of BSD UNIX systems at UCB that I still had access to. Erik