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Intel Mac OS X 10.14; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20190718000425.GB73488@eureka.lemis.com> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="gpWwvoMgB8jgYIPvYIGLtIkOOlx2qxWEf" X-Junkmail-Status: score=8/90, host=mpv2-2015.case.edu X-Junkmail-PrAS-Raw: score=8/90, refid=2.7.2:2019.7.18.140617:17:8.317, ip=, rules=DKIM_SIGNATURE, __HAS_REPLYTO, __HAS_CC_HDR, __MULTIPLE_RCPTS_CC_X2, __CC_NAME, __CC_NAME_DIFF_FROM_ACC, __SUBJ_REPLY, __BOUNCE_CHALLENGE_SUBJ, __BOUNCE_NDR_SUBJ_EXEMPT, __TO_MALFORMED_2, __TO_NAME, __TO_NAME_DIFF_FROM_ACC, __HAS_REFERENCES, __REFERENCES, __HAS_FROM, FROM_EDU_TLD, __HAS_MSGID, __SANE_MSGID, DATE_TZ_NA, __USER_AGENT, __MOZILLA_USER_AGENT, __MIME_VERSION, __IN_REP_TO, __CT, __CTYPE_HAS_BOUNDARY, __CTYPE_MULTIPART, __REPLYTO_SAMEAS_FROM_ADDY, __REPLYTO_SAMEAS_FROM_ACC, __FROM_DOMAIN_IN_ANY_CC2, __REPLYTO_SAMEAS_FROM_DOMAIN, __DKIM_ALIGNS_1, __DKIM_ALIGNS_2, __MIME_TEXT_P2, __HAS_ATTACHMENT1, __ANY_URI, __URI_WITH_PATH, __CP_URI_IN_BODY, __STOCK_PHRASE_7, __FRAUD_MONEY_CURRENCY_DOLLAR, __SUBJ_ALPHA_NEGATE, __MULTIPLE_URI_TEXT, __URI_IN_BODY, __URI_NOT_IMG, __FORWARDED_MSG, __BODY_NO_MAILTO, __NO_HTML_TAG_RAW, __ATTACHMENT_SIZE_0_10K, [TRUNCATED], so=2010-03-03 19:42:08, dmn=2016-08-03-0138 Subject: Re: [TUHS] BSD/386 (was: Old 386 Unix Versions, was: Re: PCC for the i386) X-BeenThere: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Reply-To: chet.ramey@case.edu Cc: The Eunuchs Hysterical Society Errors-To: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org Sender: "TUHS" This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --gpWwvoMgB8jgYIPvYIGLtIkOOlx2qxWEf Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="rOUkPRMH9SK5zrT5Q1KcF7og0wOoHlybM"; protected-headers="v1" From: Chet Ramey Reply-To: chet.ramey@case.edu To: Greg 'groggy' Lehey , emanuel stiebler Cc: chet.ramey@case.edu, The Eunuchs Hysterical Society Message-ID: <714626ee-af90-4806-7f24-339d842a220d@case.edu> Subject: Re: [TUHS] BSD/386 (was: Old 386 Unix Versions, was: Re: PCC for the i386) References: <8235a090-c48a-4587-8974-23305233bc33@PU1APC01FT026.eop-APC01.prod.protection.outlook.com> <3CFC8159-08DD-4647-8CEF-FE8D196AB3C9@ccc.com> <610F6FCB-F24D-4788-953A-83E0E6456622@ccc.com> <017d16e0-3a7d-b3e7-29b8-8a454d78463f@e-bbes.com> <20190718000425.GB73488@eureka.lemis.com> In-Reply-To: <20190718000425.GB73488@eureka.lemis.com> --rOUkPRMH9SK5zrT5Q1KcF7og0wOoHlybM Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 7/17/19 8:04 PM, Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote: > I started using BSD/386 in mid-March 1992, a couple of days before > Jolitz released 386BSD. In contrast to 386BSD, it was solid, > installed easily, and cost $1000 (with source; I think there were > cheaper binary-only options). It blew Interactive UNIX out of the > water. This was a Beta, so I sent reports which I have published at > http://www.lemis.com/grog/diary-mar1992.php#18 Agreed. We used BSD/386 and BSD/OS pretty heavily at Case. We ran a significant portion of the infrastructure services on it. It was solid. --=20 ``The lyf so short, the craft so long to lerne.'' - Chaucer ``Ars longa, vita brevis'' - Hippocrates Chet Ramey, UTech, CWRU chet@case.edu http://tiswww.cwru.edu/~chet/= --rOUkPRMH9SK5zrT5Q1KcF7og0wOoHlybM-- --gpWwvoMgB8jgYIPvYIGLtIkOOlx2qxWEf Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iF0EARECAB0WIQR8ATX7CIqvbGbGULm7WGnwZOp0qwUCXTCJsgAKCRC7WGnwZOp0 q0juAJ93szAKAIGB8YdWCL1cgkkG/NxJTgCdFYXBvPjK24TGKe6WCY6J54C2Gtk= =fmiR -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --gpWwvoMgB8jgYIPvYIGLtIkOOlx2qxWEf--