On 2/1/22 6:22 PM, Clem Cole wrote:
> Dan/Will - I think we need the political way back machine ...  below...
>
That's a lot of history. Thanks. Always with the money, I thought it was 
strictly altruism that drove the pioneers :).

> Then again, if the idea is running BSD on a Vax, Ultrix 4.5 is even 
> better, and has all the DEC languages and layered products.

Wow. I will dig into this. I like the layered stuff. I thought you had 
to do RT11/RSTSE/TOPS/etc to have that. I had no idea it was available 
on a *nix platform.

>
>         4. Is Quasijarus0c end of the line for VAX 4.xBSD? Why does
>         tuhs only have Quasijarus0 and 0a, was there something wrong
>         with 0b and 0c?
>
>
>     Well, no. Both OpenBSD and NetBSD ported back to the VAX, but the
>     OpenBSD effort has ended due to lack of hardware and interest. It
>     appears that NetBSD is still being actively developed on the VAX,
>     however, so it's possible to get a "modern" 4.4BSD derived system
>     on that architecture.
>
> Right - either current NetBSD or the Ultrix 4.5 is what I would do.  
> If NetBSD will run the Ultrix layered products, that would be the 
> system with the most; but I'm not sure if that will work.   Ultrix for 
> instance supports DEC (VMS) FTN - which I know you (Will) have been 
> messing with.   That is the best (most complete) FTN for Vaxen.  I 
> believe there is Ada, PL/1 and maybe even Basic2 and Cobol/RPG [I 
> think most of not all of the VMS languages for the VAX were released 
> on Ultrix but frankly, I don't remember].
Sweet. Off to hunt down Ultrix 4.5 :).

Will