From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.5 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_SIGNED,DKIM_VALID, DKIM_VALID_AU,LOTS_OF_MONEY,MAILING_LIST_MULTI,MONEY_FREEMAIL_REPTO, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 23885 invoked from network); 6 Jun 2023 03:05:16 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (2600:3c01:e000:146::1) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 6 Jun 2023 03:05:16 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E2338424F8; Tue, 6 Jun 2023 13:05:10 +1000 (AEST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=tuhs.org; s=dkim; t=1686020711; h=from:from:reply-to:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date: message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:mime-version:mime-version: content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding:list-id:list-help: list-owner:list-unsubscribe:list-subscribe:list-post; bh=v0YYkTMPxioYA8etIPKI2na+7XPYMcHcXKNmccUpIfk=; b=TPW1A7HUJrKxYhdg76lUgoN52uURcuBun9QKe1OccYRSIwQ7mirx4W2fts5mKqjPNteLA7 UC2CpsEimhw2aNTmLHEkNWiX9gp9H8Ot0/KFwzGO/2bdDTZ5vWDJyO/r5qICra/yNtwdKm 0WpDW2X8gioteisEA3/XDzWZw/Sas7o= Received: from mail-40138.protonmail.ch (mail-40138.protonmail.ch [185.70.40.138]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9AFCA424C3 for ; Tue, 6 Jun 2023 13:04:59 +1000 (AEST) Date: Tue, 06 Jun 2023 03:04:53 +0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=protonmail.com; s=protonmail3; t=1686020697; x=1686279897; bh=v0YYkTMPxioYA8etIPKI2na+7XPYMcHcXKNmccUpIfk=; h=Date:To:From:Subject:Message-ID:Feedback-ID:From:To:Cc:Date: Subject:Reply-To:Feedback-ID:Message-ID:BIMI-Selector; b=WU4O6ytgrR3AZ/onA5KVITKMwWvx9KpVwTDP0qqxOcMAEaZb0qw/Q/QtHIkWxtsGy uru/+RKAieYrvTvptFBloGKIy9CJ/htYvXcSzES4cFK2SDrWzyWI2rXItpKKxdZv7h r+fSojYXVp8cczF/4BVAl1DmOF0fQbE+2ZCjeQwnqYiHL1u02tvcre74D4VT4UA/aW oKDTJtOZWuQC5NnpwR7EYkYtWz7syfUCqRwqTgc1OPmNA2xzxvK6NMoCmIw6en77XC IxaPArHRddxzgnQsT995ZjGc6+dkSdXN1DtCFShiZpKmBvcbRUsYIo1fHLgZL80QPB EQ4kPZsHPn7tA== To: The Eunuchs Hysterical Society Message-ID: <71XxhojD5-EjPpdoE4lnOSoYZ1kQmaS5_X4zJWjJoByoTmHvQk3kitJU1uRCTp-AnFzNSR1l-2JvuKfPxANcmBgUf_KAH2YQacVWicclLq4=@protonmail.com> Feedback-ID: 35591162:user:proton MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-ID-Hash: EWHHSBG6FAJAETUG72J2XS6S3PZWW4R6 X-Message-ID-Hash: EWHHSBG6FAJAETUG72J2XS6S3PZWW4R6 X-MailFrom: segaloco@protonmail.com X-Mailman-Rule-Misses: dmarc-mitigation; no-senders; approved; emergency; loop; banned-address; member-moderation; nonmember-moderation; administrivia; implicit-dest; max-recipients; max-size; news-moderation; no-subject; digests; suspicious-header X-Mailman-Version: 3.3.6b1 Precedence: list Subject: [TUHS] Some AT&T Promotional Material/Pricing from Early 80s List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list Archived-At: List-Archive: List-Help: List-Owner: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: From: segaloco via TUHS Reply-To: segaloco Hello, I've just today received another box from the person I got that set = of UNIX manual binders from and hoo boy there's some cool stuff in here. I= t'll probably be a bit before I scan it all, but among the many bits is a f= older bearing "Software by the Bell System" on the front cover with a photo= of some tape reels lying around. The back is a simple black 70's Bell sys= tem logo. Flipping to the interior, the left panel of the folder bears fac= simile AT&T letterhead with a "letter" from Otis L. Wilson, Technology Lice= nsing Manager, denoting what promotional materials are enclosed. Among the= various terms of the licenses mentioned is: 'all software comes "as is" -- with no maintenance agreements or technical = support' Between this and the Bell logos all over this stuff, I presume it is prior = to 1982. As for the contents themselves, there are pages for V6, V7, Mini-UNIX, PWB,= 32V, and System III, the last of which is a photocopy whereas all the othe= rs are on some nice glossy cardstock, so I presume this was hot out the doo= r on the heels of System III as a commercial release. Aside from pages des= cribing each of these UNIX versions, there is a separate page describing "T= he Phototypesetter Package", in other words, pre-DWB distribution of TROFF = and friends. Aside from the UNIX stuff, there are also various utilities a= mongst IBM 360/370 and Honeywell 600/6000 systems and some various scientif= ic and mathematical systems. Also included is "Summary of UNIX System III"= which looks to be a bit of an amalgamation of info from some of the "Docum= ents for UNIX 3.0" set distributed with System III. Unfortunately, being f= or external release, the document is very of the mindset of "here's what ch= anges from V7/32V to System III" rather than that sweet sweet "here's what = changes from PWB 2.0 to 3.0" that I hope to find (or create) sometime. Any= who, finally amongst the promo material was an (undated) letter from M.B. W= icker (Technology Licensing, AT&T) to an unlisted recipient, obviously just= copy they sent to everyone, essentially communicating the terms of UNIX Sy= stem III in more detail. Between all of these materials, the following are= UNIX-related prices I could find: UNIX Sixth Edition - Initial CPU - $20,000 - Additional CPUs - $6,700 - UNIX Programmer's Manual - $30 - Documents for Use with UNIX - $30 - System III upgrade - $26,000 - System III add CPU - $10,300 PWB/UNIX - Initial CPU - $30,000 - Additional CPUs - $10,000 - PWB/UNIX User's Manual - $40 - Documents for PWB/UNIX - $40 - System III upgrade - $16,000 - System III add CPU - $7,000 Mini-UNIX - Initial CPU - $12,000 - Additional CPUs - $4,000 - UNIX Programmer's Manual - $30 - Doucments for Use with Mini-UNIX - $30 UNIX/V7 - Initial CPU - $28,000 - Additional CPUs - $9,400 - UNIX Programmer's Manual, Vol. 1 - $40 - UNIX Programmer's Manual, Vols. 2A and 2B - $60 - System III upgrade - $18,000 - System III add CPU - $7,600 UNIX/32V - Initial CPU - $40,000 - Additional CPUs - $15,000 - UNIX/32V Programmer's Manual - $40 - UNIX/32V Programmer's Manual, Vols. 2A and 2B - $60 - System III upgrade - $6,000 - System III add CPU - $2,000 UNIX System III - Initial CPU - $43,000 - Additional CPUs - $16,000 - UNIX User's Manual - $40 - Programmer's Manual for UNIX System III, Volume 2A and 2B - $40 each - The separate page detailing System III further goes on to break down = that a non-refundable payment of $25,000 to sublicense object code Phototypesetter (Version 7) - Initial CPU - $3,300 - Additional CPUs - $1,100 - Documents for Use with Phototypesetter - Version Seven - $20 Additionally there are options to upgrade a V6&V7 supporting license to Sys= tem III for $14,000 and add additional CPUs to those terms for $6,300. The= same for a group of V7 and PWB for $4,000 and $3,000 for first CPU and add= tional CPUs respectively. Of note is that all documents listed above could be purchased from the Comp= uting Information Service in Murray Hill *except* those issued for UNIX Sys= tem III, which instead were to be ordered from the Western Electric Patent = Licensing Organization. This reflects the shift to WECo distribution from = Bell Labs themselves, as would continue to be the case for 3B20S shipments = of 4.1 and the eventual 5.0 and System V releases. In addition to the prom= otional materials are also "Specimen Copy" blanks of the various licenses i= nvolved in at least System III, perhaps other versions (there are blanks wh= ere LICENSED SOFTWARE is supposed to be written/typed in). Finally, in the same folder is also a nice stack of UNIX summary documents = spanning different versions. There are summaries for PWB, Mini-UNIX, V7, a= nd 32V. Additionally, there is a document "Proposal to Provide VAX UNIX sy= stem support at Berkeley" by Bob Fabry. A quick internet search didn't tur= n up a PDF of this, so I have to wonder if it's preserved somewhere. If no= t, it will be. The other document here may prove even more interesting tho= ugh: "The UNIX Time-Sharing System for UNIVAC 1100 Series Systems - 7th Edi= tion Summary", dated October 19th, 1981. Can't say I've seen this anywhere= , just mention of the UNIVAC version in the BSTJ article on UNIX porting ex= periences. A quick perusal yields a document very similar to the V7 and 32= V summaries, but with UNIVAC-isms pointed out. Anywho, there's more material in this box than just this stuff, but this fl= oated to the top as particularly significant. Among other contents are a "= UNIX System and 'C' Language" "Training from the Source" foldout from WECo'= s Corporate Education group, listing 16 courses available at various traini= ng centers. There is a copy (nicely produced) of the 1984 draft /usr/group= standard along with a stapled, standard printer document titled "Reviewer'= s Guide to the PROPOSED /usr/group Standard" dated March 14, 1984. I must = say, the publication quality for this being a proposed standard is quite ni= ce, I'd expect a draft to be lucky to have staples if not being just paper-= clipped together, but it has a nice printed cover with a logo and all. The= re is one other thing but I'm making a separate thread for that one, might = warrant quite different feedback than this stuff. - Matt G.