From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS, MAILING_LIST_MULTI,MIME_QP_LONG_LINE,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (minnie.tuhs.org [45.79.103.53]) by inbox.vuxu.org (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTP id 76469d84 for ; Tue, 11 Jun 2019 06:23:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 7C0E79B4F9; Tue, 11 Jun 2019 16:23:17 +1000 (AEST) Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A6DB9518D; Tue, 11 Jun 2019 16:22:48 +1000 (AEST) Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 4E1BF9518D; Tue, 11 Jun 2019 16:22:46 +1000 (AEST) X-Greylist: delayed 629 seconds by postgrey-1.36 at minnie.tuhs.org; Tue, 11 Jun 2019 16:22:45 AEST Received: from cesium.clock.org (cesium.clock.org [157.22.10.65]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B8C3A9518A for ; Tue, 11 Jun 2019 16:22:45 +1000 (AEST) Received: from cesium.clock.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by cesium.clock.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA0A4CC25D; Mon, 10 Jun 2019 23:12:05 -0700 (PDT) From: "Erik E. Fair" In-reply-to: To: Adam Thornton Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2019 23:12:05 -0700 Message-ID: <7247.1560233525@cesium.clock.org> Subject: Re: [TUHS] Question about finding curses to build on v7 X-BeenThere: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org Errors-To: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org Sender: "TUHS" Adam, The emacs you should search for is "Montgomery emacs" written by Warren = Montgomery - it ran on PDP-11's under Unix. The first Unix system I had regular access to and learned on was the UCB Cory = Hall PDP-11/70 running 2.8 BSD starting in Winter 1981, but before I learned = vi, I'd learned Emacs on TOPS-20 on a DECsystem-20/60 at Stanford during summer = school a few years prior, so any emacs was the quick way in for me. I switched = because I got tired of having one finger on the CTRL key all day long ... IIRC, it was a stripped down version as compared to what I now know is = "original" Emacs written in TECO macros - no "minibuffer" and some other stuff = missing, but it had enough of the "right" keybindings that someone who knew = emacs already could make it go. I'm still in touch with Ken Arnold (we were contemporaries at UCB), and he = might be willing to help you make termcap & termlib go on V7 Unix. As I = remember that code, it's not that big. It wouldn't surprise me if the NetBSD = CVS repository for that code has the original versions. As for the Unix Hater's Handbook, a long stretch of the chapter on sendmail = is an E-mail I sent to the RISKS digest after an E-mail disaster I had to = manage at Apple ... I remember being surprised at seeing in the published = book, until I saw the footnote directly quoting the permission I gave the = authors to publish it. "Oh, yeah ..." Erik