From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.8 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_INVALID,DKIM_SIGNED, MAILING_LIST_MULTI autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 15235 invoked from network); 30 Jan 2023 16:14:56 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (50.116.15.146) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 30 Jan 2023 16:14:56 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C240425EB; Tue, 31 Jan 2023 02:14:21 +1000 (AEST) Received: from mail-il1-f170.google.com (mail-il1-f170.google.com [209.85.166.170]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 77DC3425A2 for ; Tue, 31 Jan 2023 02:14:13 +1000 (AEST) Received: by mail-il1-f170.google.com with SMTP id l7so3430945ilf.0 for ; Mon, 30 Jan 2023 08:14:13 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=iitbombay-org.20210112.gappssmtp.com; s=20210112; h=to:in-reply-to:cc:references:message-id:date:subject:mime-version :from:content-transfer-encoding:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id :reply-to; bh=9jcZYTENp7nyRaqvJqTECIRN08n1Ba+fiHQ1U+8a5GM=; b=lEhRfEOYECiPWCEPQHiU1sbFIjSeFdBVY+o47zv6tUi5NGuJx1PKXQ+Ca1xJB5yo+M fdqFxGUjQMV7dc+s+I7Nn6HWaQ4YbbkYu3Uc8SVV0ZQ5whQFAXtIblg0/WS7vvxEteu8 Fc5JP7C/LPELrajWXXKg2rddSAMvz3OKR7LkJs+N9TIymol/mKzW0RM/AyxwUo8jPEoq xM1akNC+dYxYqdM58i9FIEpmKiYX4onX4gN9QxX6c4gY6Df2OKskkq5urWn7D494Mj0P 2UrQ9WRuWrYktKMEQQAOu5OSkWdCxuh5CwYOXASxEriYxxhHfFD6uw2TkvInCYiT1wXj 3mUQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=to:in-reply-to:cc:references:message-id:date:subject:mime-version :from:content-transfer-encoding:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc :subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=9jcZYTENp7nyRaqvJqTECIRN08n1Ba+fiHQ1U+8a5GM=; b=fi51TobnsNOksxRAEKhbNbkJF55/ZxrJbkdEb6At4sdd8+K/vSG5f0nZNitmvjBwRD lT3LKTxUtt+U7mkV/SuwH8RaYq8YfRc2DGxGPhEoCAdJOwh7xIuzrqOo7/q8b7INH/Fw Z0OA4tW6CXreplH1lqYw+xhLdvj1KCJHPAc6mmGg30WZtPEvm9PVgaPAOjux6Woiklea 88lFPvjFUgIUnDFKQHn6pcRIMpCguAW1g3d2w/Sv7175thRgOt5R2ToyuztSu+0LvVOf B/EvW7HxdxBkFUpk56uz/UtAh0Jn7ya+rT7oFec6SFDjj1arxqCOpL8tdvEhFCbeYIam CX7A== X-Gm-Message-State: AO0yUKUWRX52Qtz/JdQdLzJVv925m9sWNOsUKIS54ACSkvfB/4tS7ueo Fj+qEcFR7iY+Lsq92kYVw09zvE6FuAiCkGgc X-Google-Smtp-Source: AK7set9Y794HRxA5HyKbXk5bsD8R328oJLJniJLxjbQkkPLPhMKkRibb5/QvswuBciWNQgLqby6QUQ== X-Received: by 2002:a05:6e02:1aa2:b0:310:cc76:5c9d with SMTP id l2-20020a056e021aa200b00310cc765c9dmr11215680ilv.28.1675095192906; Mon, 30 Jan 2023 08:13:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtpclient.apple (107-215-223-229.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net. [107.215.223.229]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id h6-20020a926c06000000b00300b9b7d594sm3409531ilc.20.2023.01.30.08.13.12 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Mon, 30 Jan 2023 08:13:12 -0800 (PST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: Bakul Shah Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2023 08:13:00 -0800 Message-Id: <730FEF57-FD54-4433-B344-46B0F07F34AE@iitbombay.org> References: <20230130160705.GG12306@mcvoy.com> In-Reply-To: <20230130160705.GG12306@mcvoy.com> To: Larry McVoy X-Mailer: iPad Mail (20D47) Message-ID-Hash: 2L6HVTDO73KRAT75BY3EWMKOQMQHQOZE X-Message-ID-Hash: 2L6HVTDO73KRAT75BY3EWMKOQMQHQOZE X-MailFrom: bakul@iitbombay.org X-Mailman-Rule-Misses: dmarc-mitigation; no-senders; approved; emergency; loop; banned-address; member-moderation; header-match-tuhs.tuhs.org-0; nonmember-moderation; administrivia; implicit-dest; max-recipients; max-size; news-moderation; no-subject; digests; suspicious-header CC: tuhs@tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 3.3.6b1 Precedence: list Subject: [TUHS] Re: FD 2 List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list Archived-At: List-Archive: List-Help: List-Owner: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: On Jan 30, 2023, at 8:07 AM, Larry McVoy wrote: >=20 > =EF=BB=BFOn Mon, Jan 30, 2023 at 08:03:42AM -0800, Bakul Shah wrote: >>=20 >>=20 >>>> On Jan 30, 2023, at 7:18 AM, Dan Cross wrote: >>>=20 >>> There was no job control on plan9 and I can't say I ever missed it. >>=20 >> Just yesterday I realized running two ???make -j 8??? in parallel was mak= ing >> them both go real slow so I stopped one of them with ^Z and continued >> it once the other make finished. This use case can???t be handled with mo= re >> windows. >=20 > If you don't have job control, do you not have ^C to kill one of the > make jobs? I guess you open another window and ps and kill it but > if the machine is already thrashing that is gonna be unpleasant. Yes but then you lose a bunch of work. You don=E2=80=99t want to restart, you just want to delay.=