From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE, MAILING_LIST_MULTI,T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 24788 invoked from network); 2 Jan 2024 19:55:52 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (2600:3c01:e000:146::1) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 2 Jan 2024 19:55:52 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 71BE843E61; Wed, 3 Jan 2024 05:55:47 +1000 (AEST) Received: from zimbra.anteil.com (zimbra.anteil.com [67.110.179.138]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F06443DE0 for ; Wed, 3 Jan 2024 05:55:39 +1000 (AEST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zimbra.anteil.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC754100AC; Tue, 2 Jan 2024 14:55:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from zimbra.anteil.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (zimbra.anteil.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id y1VbikrX3ZoY; Tue, 2 Jan 2024 14:55:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from zimbra.anteil.com (zimbra.anteil.com [192.168.1.22]) by zimbra.anteil.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A9EF100A1; Tue, 2 Jan 2024 14:55:36 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2024 14:55:36 -0500 (EST) From: Jim Capp To: Dan Cross Message-ID: <7536431.12274.1704225336145.JavaMail.root@zimbraanteil> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_12273_15165526.1704225336144" X-Originating-IP: [192.168.200.43] X-Mailer: Zimbra 6.0.7_GA_2476.RHEL4 (ZimbraWebClient - SAF3 (Linux)/6.0.7_GA_2473.UBUNTU8) Message-ID-Hash: WDJ3GAPKP6OEQJEYWMZB2IHN5RYUDZUK X-Message-ID-Hash: WDJ3GAPKP6OEQJEYWMZB2IHN5RYUDZUK X-MailFrom: jcapp@anteil.com X-Mailman-Rule-Misses: dmarc-mitigation; no-senders; approved; emergency; loop; banned-address; member-moderation; nonmember-moderation; administrivia; implicit-dest; max-recipients; max-size; news-moderation; no-subject; digests; suspicious-header CC: Grant Taylor , The Unix Heritage Society X-Mailman-Version: 3.3.6b1 Precedence: list Subject: [TUHS] Re: Question about BSD disklabel history List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list Archived-At: List-Archive: List-Help: List-Owner: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: ------=_Part_12273_15165526.1704225336144 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The "ok" prompt is from "OpenBoot", a boot manager, written in FORTH: https://docs.oracle.com/cd/E19253-01/816-1177-10/816-1177-10.pdf Jim From: "Dan Cross" To: "Warner Losh" Cc: "Grant Taylor" , "The Unix Heritage Society" Sent: Tuesday, January 2, 2024 2:50:52 PM Subject: [TUHS] Re: Question about BSD disklabel history On Tue, Jan 2, 2024 at 2:00 PM Warner Losh wrote: > [snip] > Yea, I have a memory of the Sun 3 (68k) machines having a different ROM than the Sun 4 (sparc) machines in the late 80s/early 90s with similar interfaces, but the Sun 3's being simpler. Maybe I just worked with older Sun 3's that didn't have a newer OpenFirmware. Sun 3/50 and Sun 3/60 definitely had a different PROM arrangement than SPARCstations. However, I have a vague memory that the Sun 3/80 used OpenFirmware. The 3/80 (and similar Sun-3x machines introduced at the same time) would have been among the last, if not the last, MC68k-based Sun3 machine. I may be wrong, though; it's been a while. Regardless, I vaguely remember the "ok" prompt on a 3/80. - Dan C. ------=_Part_12273_15165526.1704225336144 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <= div style=3D'font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 12pt; color: #000000'= >The "ok" prompt is from "OpenBoot", a boo= t manager, written in FORTH:

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Jim


From: "Dan Cross" <crossd@gmail.com>
To= : "Warner Losh" <imp@bsdimp.com>=
Cc: "Gran= t Taylor" <gtaylor@tnetconsulting.net>, "The Unix Heritage Society" &= lt;tuhs@tuhs.org>
Sent: Tuesday, January 2, 2024 2:50:52 PM
Subject: [TUHS] Re: Question abo= ut BSD disklabel history

On = Tue, Jan 2, 2024 at 2:00=E2=80=AFPM Warner Losh <imp@bsdimp.com> wrot= e:
> [snip]
> Yea, I have a memory of the Sun 3 (68k) mach= ines having a different ROM than the Sun 4 (sparc) machines in the late 80s= /early 90s with similar interfaces, but the Sun 3's being simpler. Maybe I = just worked with older Sun 3's that didn't have a newer OpenFirmware.

Sun 3/50 and Sun 3/60 definitely = had a different PROM arrangement than
SPARCstations. However, I have a vague memory that the Sun 3/80 used<= /span>
OpenFirmware. The 3/80 (and simi= lar Sun-3x machines introduced at the
same time) would have been among the last, if not the last,MC68k-based Sun3 machine. I may be wrong,= though; it's been a while.
Rega= rdless, I vaguely remember the "ok" prompt on a 3/80.

        - Dan C.<= br>
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