From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE, MAILING_LIST_MULTI autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 4596 invoked from network); 20 Jan 2023 01:16:28 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (50.116.15.146) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 20 Jan 2023 01:16:28 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AFBEB42524; Fri, 20 Jan 2023 11:15:54 +1000 (AEST) Received: from mout.perfora.net (mout.perfora.net [74.208.4.194]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1B04B42522 for ; Fri, 20 Jan 2023 11:15:50 +1000 (AEST) Received: from makerlispvps ([74.208.29.250]) by mrelay.perfora.net (mreueus003 [74.208.5.2]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0MFvO4-1pXVj83NCA-00Er6v; Fri, 20 Jan 2023 02:15:48 +0100 Received: from [192.168.234.128] (unknown [172.58.76.151]) by makerlispvps (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 274668876E; Fri, 20 Jan 2023 01:15:48 +0000 (UTC) To: John Cowan References: <202301180943.30I9hrOw030485@freefriends.org> <202301181513.30IFDDUJ015224@freefriends.org> <20230118151446.GD2964@mcvoy.com> <202301190802.30J82KwQ025718@freefriends.org> <20230119150434.GA626@mcvoy.com> <7cc2b7c5-5e98-9299-4fa8-a477fbf4ff77@makerlisp.com> From: Luther Johnson Message-ID: <75cfc721-a662-ddea-1188-767462d747ae@makerlisp.com> Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2023 18:15:46 -0700 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------1C1213B1AC7D0D5EA6F6CF55" X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:nndfAxwA63CAh32CJW9kKWkA/q4BwQdjqfy5631djrE7wXSNHjL 9PwPptg3G0Ie/fKOObGv5STCqJ7As1QmmHQ0TfwiCozqZkJWnKidvaKt945Gv1zxHqTMkCE zkPwf1uD5CromgnKiNdCmI/80sOv+OwZs8iUqJanBwbop5hhMJVXf1YwbqBGlFNqZ33HmxS mk0M9CCC6fC+ITf4uY2OQ== UI-OutboundReport: notjunk:1;M01:P0:JRJYzD9sAm8=;37xR2VokL+OL6hx5p+fI+YQCcZF CeVdAhczcPwx5MGqvvcSwA4xgglKPVkt1H65bdeNe09BA6gcqKmETQru40MGPI2MDaAJrVR1w Gbw0bLAUVvSSPle34kPUBGubXSHCfiAdKTlNemy8Eb2p9ZK4nCFgr5BiesHoo7bD7sVk5eSPw H52FDEMdJqH6dlVWOKECmTDdPPDOl1kSznDqLT11VWbjqeQN2+bngGAOuaYkZT7G7VOEBJQO2 WrIGBe0lQezf0U4eBk92Fvamfbm3aInZP+qmc0mJ4Vr8e9WGpgnlF+Ljc+ruaymOhMUH/xrKY XyWlMxLDGuFgh8Lmcw6ia6HmK9rwpc/QHRbcxRKxrSoeh11LDhhSc2J/798F3ggVjaqEQzYQx 6Tb+vdb9tdELNvPfXg2q9XTgJtrc3a0kIDr3uca8yxdAyn2Jn1YqkbCn/dSWcFJsxbts7qN8v 6Br2RuW4pcugNd13PWg26gYrXJJq4o2JYGRlS3AUQ7/h1HcWUcJHRzVOzVQxhMCEohTInbEvn n3Iyd58rr3lv4Ba35nrqt/d3IZPQl8zjnlky/8d8vn3jBUtPFdmCAAl3JW+QBhq3+iRaBbKoy +7Y4JJ9oq4q7dkyF0bZqg8Aar7cqNkFIbckg1S40nptPJ7O+m3UEbvq5qxjbsAikEv4nSq+io 2ZYcxx0dB0ol6BnmxmikMmQclp71rHFOerlD0Ox1sQ== Message-ID-Hash: HXGL3J56AAXS3LU2WLVNVEBHEUMJ3YKQ X-Message-ID-Hash: HXGL3J56AAXS3LU2WLVNVEBHEUMJ3YKQ X-MailFrom: luther@makerlisp.com X-Mailman-Rule-Misses: dmarc-mitigation; no-senders; approved; emergency; loop; banned-address; member-moderation; header-match-tuhs.tuhs.org-0; nonmember-moderation; administrivia; implicit-dest; max-recipients; max-size; news-moderation; no-subject; digests; suspicious-header CC: tuhs@tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 3.3.6b1 Precedence: list Subject: [TUHS] Re: The era of general purpose computing (Re: AIX moved into maintainance mode List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list Archived-At: List-Archive: List-Help: List-Owner: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------1C1213B1AC7D0D5EA6F6CF55 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Well, that's a comforting thought, I hope it goes that way. On 01/19/2023 06:10 PM, John Cowan wrote: > > > On Thu, Jan 19, 2023 at 5:23 PM Luther Johnson > wrote: > > Computers that are not smart phone-like are definitely on the > endangered > species list. You know, the kind on a desk, with a keyboard ... > > > I don't have statistics for this, but I doubt it. Consider amateur > radio, which has been around for a century now. Amateur stations are > an ever-shrinking *fraction* of all transmitters, to say nothing of > receivers, but in absolute terms there are now more than 2 million > hams in the world, which is almost certainly more than ever. --------------1C1213B1AC7D0D5EA6F6CF55 Content-Type: text/html; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 PGh0bWw+DQogIDxoZWFkPg0KICAgIDxtZXRhIGNvbnRlbnQ9InRleHQvaHRtbDsgY2hhcnNldD11 dGYtOCIgaHR0cC1lcXVpdj0iQ29udGVudC1UeXBlIj4NCiAgPC9oZWFkPg0KICA8Ym9keSBiZ2Nv bG9yPSIjRkZGRkZGIiB0ZXh0PSIjMDAwMDAwIj4NCiAgICA8cD5XZWxsLCB0aGF0J3MgYSBjb21m b3J0aW5nIHRob3VnaHQsIEkgaG9wZSBpdCBnb2VzIHRoYXQgd2F5Ljxicj4NCiAgICA8L3A+DQog ICAgPGRpdiBjbGFzcz0ibW96LWNpdGUtcHJlZml4Ij5PbiAwMS8xOS8yMDIzIDA2OjEwIFBNLCBK b2huIENvd2FuDQogICAgICB3cm90ZTo8YnI+DQogICAgPC9kaXY+DQogICAgPGJsb2NrcXVvdGUN CmNpdGU9Im1pZDpDQUQyZ3BfUVhidFZaSGI9Vk4xUUw3YkpBVnFSajRTNUMteTV1TVNRaDcwNC00 R0gzd1FAbWFpbC5nbWFpbC5jb20iDQogICAgICB0eXBlPSJjaXRlIj4NCiAgICAgIDxkaXYgZGly PSJsdHIiPg0KICAgICAgICA8ZGl2IGRpcj0ibHRyIj4NCiAgICAgICAgICA8ZGl2IGNsYXNzPSJn bWFpbF9kZWZhdWx0IiBzdHlsZT0iZm9udC1mYW1pbHk6JnF1b3Q7dGltZXMgbmV3DQogICAgICAg ICAgICByb21hbiZxdW90OyxzZXJpZjtmb250LXNpemU6bGFyZ2UiPjxicj4NCiAgICAgICAgICA8 L2Rpdj4NCiAgICAgICAgPC9kaXY+DQogICAgICAgIDxicj4NCiAgICAgICAgPGRpdiBjbGFzcz0i Z21haWxfcXVvdGUiPg0KICAgICAgICAgIDxkaXYgZGlyPSJsdHIiIGNsYXNzPSJnbWFpbF9hdHRy Ij5PbiBUaHUsIEphbiAxOSwgMjAyMyBhdCA1OjIzDQogICAgICAgICAgICBQTSBMdXRoZXIgSm9o bnNvbiAmbHQ7PGEgbW96LWRvLW5vdC1zZW5kPSJ0cnVlIg0KICAgICAgICAgICAgICBocmVmPSJt YWlsdG86bHV0aGVyQG1ha2VybGlzcC5jb20iPmx1dGhlckBtYWtlcmxpc3AuY29tPC9hPiZndDsN CiAgICAgICAgICAgIHdyb3RlOjxicj4NCiAgICAgICAgICA8L2Rpdj4NCiAgICAgICAgICA8ZGl2 IGRpcj0ibHRyIiBjbGFzcz0iZ21haWxfYXR0ciI+PGJyPg0KICAgICAgICAgIDwvZGl2Pg0KICAg ICAgICAgIDxibG9ja3F1b3RlIGNsYXNzPSJnbWFpbF9xdW90ZSIgc3R5bGU9Im1hcmdpbjowcHgg MHB4IDBweA0KICAgICAgICAgICAgMC44ZXg7Ym9yZGVyLWxlZnQ6MXB4IHNvbGlkDQogICAgICAg ICAgICByZ2IoMjA0LDIwNCwyMDQpO3BhZGRpbmctbGVmdDoxZXgiPkNvbXB1dGVycyB0aGF0IGFy ZSBub3QNCiAgICAgICAgICAgIHNtYXJ0IHBob25lLWxpa2UgYXJlIGRlZmluaXRlbHkgb24gdGhl IGVuZGFuZ2VyZWQgPGJyPg0KICAgICAgICAgICAgc3BlY2llcyBsaXN0LiBZb3Uga25vdywgdGhl IGtpbmQgb27CoCBhIGRlc2ssIHdpdGjCoCBhDQogICAgICAgICAgICBrZXlib2FyZCAuLi48YnI+ DQogICAgICAgICAgPC9ibG9ja3F1b3RlPg0KICAgICAgICAgIDxkaXY+PGJyPg0KICAgICAgICAg IDwvZGl2Pg0KICAgICAgICAgIDxkaXYgY2xhc3M9ImdtYWlsX2RlZmF1bHQiIHN0eWxlPSJmb250 LWZhbWlseTomcXVvdDt0aW1lcyBuZXcNCiAgICAgICAgICAgIHJvbWFuJnF1b3Q7LHNlcmlmO2Zv bnQtc2l6ZTpsYXJnZSI+SSBkb24ndCBoYXZlIHN0YXRpc3RpY3MNCiAgICAgICAgICAgIGZvciB0 aGlzLCBidXQgSSBkb3VidCBpdC7CoCBDb25zaWRlciBhbWF0ZXVyIHJhZGlvLCB3aGljaCBoYXMN CiAgICAgICAgICAgIGJlZW4gYXJvdW5kIGZvciBhIGNlbnR1cnkgbm93LsKgIEFtYXRldXIgc3Rh dGlvbnMgYXJlIGFuDQogICAgICAgICAgICBldmVyLXNocmlua2luZyAqZnJhY3Rpb24qIG9mIGFs bCB0cmFuc21pdHRlcnMsIHRvIHNheQ0KICAgICAgICAgICAgbm90aGluZyBvZiByZWNlaXZlcnMs IGJ1dCBpbiBhYnNvbHV0ZSB0ZXJtcyB0aGVyZSBhcmUgbm93DQogICAgICAgICAgICBtb3JlIHRo YW4gMiBtaWxsaW9uIGhhbXMgaW4gdGhlIHdvcmxkLCB3aGljaCBpcyBhbG1vc3QNCiAgICAgICAg ICAgIGNlcnRhaW5seSBtb3JlIHRoYW4gZXZlci48L2Rpdj4NCiAgICAgICAgPC9kaXY+DQogICAg ICA8L2Rpdj4NCiAgICA8L2Jsb2NrcXVvdGU+DQogICAgPGJyPg0KICA8L2JvZHk+DQo8L2h0bWw+ DQo= --------------1C1213B1AC7D0D5EA6F6CF55--