From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.8 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_INVALID,DKIM_SIGNED, MAILING_LIST_MULTI autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 24837 invoked from network); 26 Nov 2022 20:04:45 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (50.116.15.146) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 26 Nov 2022 20:04:45 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5453A416F9; Sun, 27 Nov 2022 06:04:38 +1000 (AEST) Received: from out5-smtp.messagingengine.com (out5-smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.29]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2B9F34025D for ; Sun, 27 Nov 2022 06:04:33 +1000 (AEST) Received: from compute4.internal (compute4.nyi.internal [10.202.2.44]) by mailout.nyi.internal (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF7015C00AF for ; Sat, 26 Nov 2022 15:04:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from imap47 ([10.202.2.97]) by compute4.internal (MEProxy); Sat, 26 Nov 2022 15:04:31 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=loomcom.com; h= cc:content-type:date:date:from:from:in-reply-to:in-reply-to :message-id:mime-version:references:reply-to:sender:subject :subject:to:to; s=fm3; t=1669493071; x=1669579471; bh=onO/wIXWtU gpTuqDHauMMzbf4jVK3xVhp0NY/YlYwYs=; b=fmgyJy4XIctOly18s8OS7/QPgm TJ23pFrNDHJs0/4XPWYRyg1l+kJnfXmYm2S1FE+LI+LKYQrfQvl+nDlSasbze2kD HsXpb/8YS9DNmvX1OULLTtyUzVkwe9L9tWy9RIZfW+g9r8fmCtB/Vc6VnvP8S4VA +CeWwTeqKQD6Kbm/B20/VjA2I11KFR0/sTr4E942GRBZ6g8JnxHBevsGX7hoGD2q OfimaZGHuUeCv98T+Js5c86H4MWAFvlZ+7ps9bAYpTLmAemIGabXo1K1DOTWaBbE BhOUj43T5lQ/6MTwxTNjQm+5QeetxlqVlxC/k9iPrUBmsT7GjGTRB+npffxg== DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=cc:content-type:date:date:feedback-id :feedback-id:from:from:in-reply-to:in-reply-to:message-id :mime-version:references:reply-to:sender:subject:subject:to:to :x-me-proxy:x-me-proxy:x-me-sender:x-me-sender:x-sasl-enc; s= fm1; t=1669493071; x=1669579471; bh=onO/wIXWtUgpTuqDHauMMzbf4jVK 3xVhp0NY/YlYwYs=; b=RJ2iiT8ETY4IAKVarYNSrYNHtodKE+/l1vVbWWZkEDB0 0FLUWHsi04Y4o9jf5duiZl8nxvY1vHhtoUskB9ckFtaihPqzYgVwURSapWJaW7Rl +4tqSkIQmWUezEtn45vHLlgJBALXDF3XP9vNPw1ejJHeagMDN/wZ0AXfqxz1UXwd afIyicAWPtz9EjaEBALi3oBlmJ+o72LpbE28j3FElkm7PLm/lf5okAa73KbZenxE Huv/wq87UfiYcikTJabuvbM92U4QeAmYklGClIQtHPOUb6gYFILTVrQQzMSwTEF4 2scokhmylhiOlfpcG2ZoadM0aR5JaSEfpR8KmEZOWA== X-ME-Sender: X-ME-Proxy-Cause: gggruggvucftvghtrhhoucdtuddrgedvgedrieejgddufeehucetufdoteggodetrfdotf fvucfrrhhofhhilhgvmecuhfgrshhtofgrihhlpdfqfgfvpdfurfetoffkrfgpnffqhgen uceurghilhhouhhtmecufedttdenucenucfjughrpefofgggkfgjfhffhffvufgtsehttd ertderredtnecuhfhrohhmpedfufgvthhhucfoohhrrggsihhtohdfuceofigvsgeslhho ohhmtghomhdrtghomheqnecuggftrfgrthhtvghrnhepteeiueeihfetuefhvdfffffhie ekgffggeethfevvdevvdefvdeuiefftdfffeegnecuvehluhhsthgvrhfuihiivgeptden ucfrrghrrghmpehmrghilhhfrhhomhepfigvsgeslhhoohhmtghomhdrtghomh X-ME-Proxy: Feedback-ID: i132042c1:Fastmail Received: by mailuser.nyi.internal (Postfix, from userid 501) id BB023A6007C; Sat, 26 Nov 2022 15:04:31 -0500 (EST) X-Mailer: MessagingEngine.com Webmail Interface User-Agent: Cyrus-JMAP/3.7.0-alpha0-1115-g8b801eadce-fm-20221102.001-g8b801ead Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <764dda08-f358-4c74-8056-ef8fc80bcaac@app.fastmail.com> In-Reply-To: <20221126191827.GV18011@mcvoy.com> References: <8f278bf8-de57-4e77-a3b8-d007d7c3a446@app.fastmail.com> <20221126191827.GV18011@mcvoy.com> Date: Sat, 26 Nov 2022 12:04:11 -0800 From: "Seth Morabito" To: tuhs@tuhs.org Content-Type: text/plain Message-ID-Hash: 4OUNHRR37DQSZ67V3RNCBKDIITMA4DWQ X-Message-ID-Hash: 4OUNHRR37DQSZ67V3RNCBKDIITMA4DWQ X-MailFrom: web@loomcom.com X-Mailman-Rule-Misses: dmarc-mitigation; no-senders; approved; emergency; loop; banned-address; member-moderation; header-match-tuhs.tuhs.org-0; nonmember-moderation; administrivia; implicit-dest; max-recipients; max-size; news-moderation; no-subject; digests; suspicious-header X-Mailman-Version: 3.3.6b1 Precedence: list Subject: [TUHS] Re: Reaction to the 3B2 at Bell Labs List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list Archived-At: List-Archive: List-Help: List-Owner: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: On Sat, Nov 26, 2022, at 11:18 AM, Larry McVoy wrote: > On Sat, Nov 26, 2022 at 10:46:33AM -0800, Seth Morabito wrote: >> Can anyone recall what the general mood was regarding the 3B2 (and the 7300 and the 6300, I suppose!) > > If the 7300 was the 3B1, M68K, I had one of those and a good friend also > had one. It was a huge step up from a CP/M machine which was my > previous machine. I liked it a lot. > > But I wasn't at Bell Labs so perhaps this isn't the info you want. I got > the sense that the 3B2 was not very popular anywhere. It was definitely a weird beast. I'm only "fond" of it in the loosest possible sense because I spent so much time trying to understand its internals. It was the perfect combination of too slow, too low specs, and too expensive! I think one of my slides will simply say "IT WAS BAD AT BEING A COMPUTER" -Seth -- Seth Morabito Poulsbo, WA web@loomcom.com