From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.8 required=5.0 tests=HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS, MAILING_LIST_MULTI,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (minnie.tuhs.org [45.79.103.53]) by inbox.vuxu.org (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTP id 41e1ef96 for ; Tue, 25 Sep 2018 15:29:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 46F9FA1DD8; Wed, 26 Sep 2018 01:29:32 +1000 (AEST) Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D3C69410D; Wed, 26 Sep 2018 01:29:10 +1000 (AEST) Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 096919410D; Wed, 26 Sep 2018 01:29:07 +1000 (AEST) Received: from p3plsmtpa09-07.prod.phx3.secureserver.net (p3plsmtpa09-07.prod.phx3.secureserver.net [173.201.193.236]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B62E994106 for ; Wed, 26 Sep 2018 01:29:06 +1000 (AEST) Received: from medusa.kilonet.net ([72.69.214.193]) by :SMTPAUTH: with ESMTPA id 4pGsgF22UHKvZ4pGsgOQcM; Tue, 25 Sep 2018 08:29:06 -0700 Received: from [199.89.231.101] (ender.kilonet.net [199.89.231.101]) by medusa.kilonet.net (8.14.8/8.15.1) with ESMTP id w8PFT5Nm019057 for ; Tue, 25 Sep 2018 11:29:05 -0400 (EDT) To: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org References: <20180925121212.C179D18C08D@mercury.lcs.mit.edu> From: Arthur Krewat Message-ID: <78271134-1774-9c43-2df0-9bcd5174a349@kilonet.net> Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2018 11:29:01 -0400 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.9.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20180925121212.C179D18C08D@mercury.lcs.mit.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Language: en-US X-CMAE-Envelope: MS4wfA5eHBeIvyBa8c62X4oiRfyxEqM3tEmYyXLxFsQCRIw8uRe/9OXtUtG2fYsBBaLDVEOfPD6RmCB2szh+lLDNgakLO42a7Dgg53eBGYNjAzaX3eAZQtNc C17DtfwZiqCLbmEXyAfFUQvcgrpiy3a0dlITfphVD20B9jioaEVTu9hNrFAtVUuZFeSg0QwDYYZrwA== Subject: Re: [TUHS] SPARC is CRAPS spelled backwards. X-BeenThere: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org Sender: "TUHS" On 9/25/2018 8:12 AM, Noel Chiappa wrote: > > From: Arthur Krewat > > > Also, granted, to this day you can still use only 8-bits of a register: > > Yeah, but that's not totally useless; lots of byte-organized data out there in > the world, e.g. ASCII strings. 16-bit data, less so, although there is some in > networking protocols (checksums, ports, etc - although the checksums you > _compute_ using bigger chunks). > > (Not a defense of the x86 instruction set, mind!) > > Noel > > Oh, I like 8-bit operations... I use them a lot. Coming from MACRO-10 on a 36-bit PDP-10 I used in high school, the move to microcomputers was challenging in some ways, but much easier in others. Especially 7 or 8 bit operations.