From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.8 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED, DKIM_INVALID,DKIM_SIGNED,FREEMAIL_FROM,MAILING_LIST_MULTI autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 18799 invoked from network); 26 Feb 2023 16:39:23 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (2600:3c01:e000:146::1) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 26 Feb 2023 16:39:23 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 13706432A9; Mon, 27 Feb 2023 02:39:19 +1000 (AEST) Received: from mail-oa1-x2d.google.com (mail-oa1-x2d.google.com [IPv6:2001:4860:4864:20::2d]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1C7FB432A8 for ; Mon, 27 Feb 2023 02:39:10 +1000 (AEST) Received: by mail-oa1-x2d.google.com with SMTP id 586e51a60fabf-17264e9b575so5182381fac.9 for ; Sun, 26 Feb 2023 08:39:10 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20210112; h=to:references:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:cc:date :in-reply-to:from:subject:mime-version:from:to:cc:subject:date :message-id:reply-to; bh=Yu9Cxhl901sGbPtpUKPFMOrXhGyqfIjtbDcEBy8FQ58=; b=HfBPmgdedbwgWKx0FFkZM39E3oNDrpwe+K8zvD/LzSQxPWK/o1xUzsx90XwF1AOlCo mIHzwwayvjmyBJmaMwWRiHKcgLhnGwefLF+5vN0rFszybsH+chKsI0wggI82dsbMQRJN QQN/UmuLN4/bHUl4+OXtS/z82wckSMnEEhXcxDyjaHRcnsZqC0jLPrIf+6M4JWVgAPvr lBXJmwtJ7NNchJBZeSNWvnPMnCePQ9R8Qj2DqpVokjNt5p0uMwkNSosEd9Vezx8VKer7 RUoSypG38NHp+SNqH5SYfKdKQbN3PpNrgHhYcmWBmi7VCmittq8pneUePVHHR3Z1IXWD R0eg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=to:references:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:cc:date :in-reply-to:from:subject:mime-version:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc :subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=Yu9Cxhl901sGbPtpUKPFMOrXhGyqfIjtbDcEBy8FQ58=; b=YxvyGdxhkli4Z/JaOBjawspmPiJ7eVME+CViataxkpppUOxtsSIMir5GlWaIDCdotr aFf710UvWgVM9+SJHiovasZewK/uvxVyZhzguwN2gaR98eqjnMkJ96cWkcqWufO0KqNg JDOv/0n8CrhDDEoIdkkNEdULQr3ss30sTiOBMaJY5I88L7yxRg/2nxDZFXDTNZblaWrj 7/Aizpeij2V4GSAdo3xzY3RIbNDldHuwTz8mGj8itRsuG9oLDmf1fxEpEYq9FTDgmlWl +0kvl/YEzfmD6JJ/QbkqAULboWZSH3C0VJD9Ls1UwS3nVupypUxPuOgyNjR6f1yTJ9ws iCYQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AO0yUKWerOlQusJcwXzLhfZ50/Rv/csTamEhkA/pdKH6mX9K0pFAPlSk 2GolcWU6wCwvv7bdj3bUwWE= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AK7set85DtE0wbYnPnofRp4qH7P1ZcCVfSNIB2g4LfAJXHgoVcCbksZFvT75t9PzxttZ24N/6lb3OA== X-Received: by 2002:a05:6870:b529:b0:172:289b:39f4 with SMTP id v41-20020a056870b52900b00172289b39f4mr13130500oap.0.1677429547710; Sun, 26 Feb 2023 08:39:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from [10.17.216.161] ([107.120.42.193]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id v1-20020a056870e28100b00172473f9fe0sm1528687oad.13.2023.02.26.08.39.07 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-ECDSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Sun, 26 Feb 2023 08:39:07 -0800 (PST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) From: Will Senn X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (16H81) In-Reply-To: <874jr8s8ee.fsf@vuxu.org> Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2023 10:39:04 -0600 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <78FBC005-1DA2-4D08-89A2-5E8DE30436C5@gmail.com> References: <58626A0B-EF9C-4920-8E20-CE0C4210BA6A@planet.nl> <878rgks9x1.fsf@vuxu.org> <20230226161313.GV12775@mcvoy.com> <874jr8s8ee.fsf@vuxu.org> To: Leah Neukirchen Message-ID-Hash: IGYHPVYW5ZAWCK7DOT2CFBJMJBEOQONQ X-Message-ID-Hash: IGYHPVYW5ZAWCK7DOT2CFBJMJBEOQONQ X-MailFrom: will.senn@gmail.com X-Mailman-Rule-Misses: dmarc-mitigation; no-senders; approved; emergency; loop; banned-address; member-moderation; nonmember-moderation; administrivia; implicit-dest; max-recipients; max-size; news-moderation; no-subject; digests; suspicious-header CC: The Eunuchs Hysterical Society X-Mailman-Version: 3.3.6b1 Precedence: list Subject: [TUHS] Re: Early GUI on Linux List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list Archived-At: List-Archive: List-Help: List-Owner: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Same here. The virtual terminals worked for me (and still do) until I start d= oing ssh, then screen and tmux are lifesavers.=20 Will Sent from my iPhone > On Feb 26, 2023, at 10:23 AM, Leah Neukirchen wrote: >=20 > Larry McVoy writes: >=20 >>> On Sun, Feb 26, 2023 at 04:50:34PM +0100, Leah Neukirchen wrote: >>> Warner Losh writes: >>>=20 >>>> - was there any discussion of alternatives to X? >>>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>> Discussions yes. But not much more than talk. >>>>=20 >>>> There were vgalib apps that ran graphics on the console, but I never us= ed >>>> them. >>>=20 >>> Back then I didn't have enough disk space to install X11 and TeX at >>> the same time, so I mostly worked on the 80x25 console >>=20 >> screen(1) was my go to back in the days of limited resources. Especially= >> screen -r so you could detach, come back the next day and have all your >> setup right there. >>=20 >> Wasn't that fancy but oh so useful. I'm with Ted in that we just wanted >> a bunch of terminal windows. >=20 > Curiously, I learned about screen only way later, when I used remote > systems. But I made getty spawn on 12 ttys, so that worked as well to > multitask. >=20 > --=20 > Leah Neukirchen https://leahneukirchen.org