> On 7 Feb 2018, at 00:02, Theodore Ts'o wrote: > > On Tue, Feb 06, 2018 at 02:13:51PM -0800, Dan Stromberg wrote: >> 2) I think the main reason BSD nearly died, was the AT&T lawsuit. At >> the time, Linux appeared to be a safer bet legally. > > At the time of the AT&T lawsuit, most of the people who would be > interested in using a Un*x-like system on their personal x86 systems > probably wouldn't have been worried about their own personal legal > liability. The decision of corporations to use Linux was well *after* > the AT&T lawsuit was resolved. As a long-time Unix user (since around 1978) I agree with the above: the lawsuit was definitely not very high in my concerns when I wanted a Unix on a cheap PC, I just wanted it to work and, at the same time, I appreciated the impossible ecosystem which the PC brought along with a gazillion different cards all requiring a special driver (I am thinking, in particular, of the “SuperIO” card which my 386SX had to provide two RS232 ports, a parallel port and a 3 1/2” drive - made in Taiwan, zero documentation, etc.). The Unix machines I had access to via work/study were all “big iron” coming from large manufacturers and totally out of my price range. > Something to remember is that in early 90's, floppy disks was the only > affordable way hobbiists to get OS's installed on x86 systems. Even > OS/2 as distributed from IBM / Microsoft came on 30+ floppy disks. In > 1990, CD-R recording system cost $35,000 (and dollars were bigger back > then). In 1992, the price had dropped to $10-12k, and it wasn't until > 1995 that he first CD-R system under $1000 was available. It was also really rather easy to share a floppy disk amongst friends whereas copying a CD or a tape was really very expensive for a student/amateur. > So I would argue that Linux was *easier* to bootstrap than > NetBSD/FreeBSD during that era. The fact that we could shrink a > kernel and a root file system down to two 1.44 MiB floppy disks > required an on-trivial engineering effort, and it meant that all you > had to was to download and write half-dozen to a dozen flopy disks, > and then it was *trivial*. Absolutely true. I would have never tried Linux had it been possible to install FreeBSD/NetBSD on the PCs I had access to from a floppy disk. This changed around 1994 when I managed to boot NetBSD from floppy on a Dell 486SX with very specific hardware (network card, etc.) which I had managed to find thrown away by a big bank in the City. My dream was a Sun but all I could afford was a 2nd hand battered 486SX… Arrigo