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[24.113.81.134]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id f18sm27789337pfc.203.2022.02.02.21.47.57 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-ECDSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Wed, 02 Feb 2022 21:47:57 -0800 (PST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 13.4 \(3608.120.23.2.7\)) From: Rich Morin In-Reply-To: <202202020747.2127lTTh005669@freefriends.org> Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2022 21:47:52 -0800 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <7C19F93B-4F21-4BB1-A064-0307D3568DB7@cfcl.com> References: <202202011537.211FbYSe017204@freefriends.org> <20220201155225.5A9541FB21@orac.inputplus.co.uk> <202202020747.2127lTTh005669@freefriends.org> To: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3608.120.23.2.7) Subject: [TUHS] more about Brian... X-BeenThere: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org Sender: "TUHS" > On Feb 1, 2022, at 23:47, arnold@skeeve.com wrote: >=20 > ... in general, I think the principle of "ANYTHING written by Brian > Kernighan is worth reading, at least once" applies, ... I've been having a good time watching YouTube videos that have Brian = either interviewing or being interviewed by assorted folks. My favorite = one, so far, is this "fireside chat": VCF East 2019 -- Brian Kernighan interviews Ken Thompson https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DEY6q5dv_B-o In any case, the K&P book I'd _really_ like to see brought up to date is = "The Elements of Programming Style". It could have been subtitled "How = to write small, simple programs that work." It's still a very fine = book, but I'm not sure that the current crop of beginning programmers = would be patient enough to deal with the sadly dated example code. If you're still here, I'll give you a vignette from many years ago. My = spouse and I were both early fans of AWK, having been introduced to it = around 1983 by our friend Jim Joyce. Indeed, she used AWK to process = line printer plot files (dendograms, for the curious) into a format that = my homegrown SunCore interpreter could render for screen display and = printing on our dot matrix printer. Some of them ended up in her = Master's Thesis... Anyway, we traveled with Jim to Copenhagen for a EurOpen conference. At = the closing banquet, I got to an empty table before anyone else and = tossed down a "no smoking" placard. Vicki and I then sat down. Shortly = thereafter, Brian walked past and saw the placard. Brian: "Is this a non-smoking table?" Us: "It is now. (:-)" So, he sat down and we had a chance to dine with a personal hero (and = all-around nice guy). The next day, we got on a train to Stockholm, on = our way to Helsinki (to teach a Unix Intro course with Jim). Our = four-person compartment turned out to include Brian, Vicki, me, and a = long-suffering European businessman. IIRC, we pestered Brian for hours = about AWK, Bell Labs, and so forth. He was unfailingly gracious and a = wonderful person to spend the trip with. -r