From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.7 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_INVALID,DKIM_SIGNED, MAILING_LIST_MULTI,T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE,URIBL_CSS autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 4034 invoked from network); 15 Aug 2022 18:30:20 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (50.116.15.146) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 15 Aug 2022 18:30:20 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 721AD40250; Tue, 16 Aug 2022 04:30:05 +1000 (AEST) Received: from wout3-smtp.messagingengine.com (wout3-smtp.messagingengine.com [64.147.123.19]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4F7F140245 for ; Tue, 16 Aug 2022 04:29:47 +1000 (AEST) Received: from compute2.internal (compute2.nyi.internal [10.202.2.46]) by mailout.west.internal (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8AC8B3200ABD for ; Mon, 15 Aug 2022 14:29:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from imap49 ([10.202.2.99]) by compute2.internal (MEProxy); Mon, 15 Aug 2022 14:29:45 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=pobox.com; h=cc :content-transfer-encoding:content-type:date:date:from:from :in-reply-to:message-id:mime-version:reply-to:sender:subject :subject:to:to; s=fm3; t=1660588185; x=1660674585; bh=bT4Kwy7MHt FS5KEPAi+s+F9TymZfSjfzvQ2A4L2h0og=; b=LOAM4AeY/V04HRBKzJP0Zq7Grc k3HiFFMbkOI/asOoaoOd7+3nylpK4CKqNTa1ZGQwi51/Nggmf5D421P/63YjuTaD +WBrX0UOnWDsWOtRaKnsu2msMhw2WnoWTemgVOtrODPwUEccx3M1gcCn38gf8nbr 6+sZAxurhtKCfkz+oKuudOJdKGxCE/H0DoufAcWtk4g5zMXzxouBxdFD1n0k0IAh FIL5xNNqbXiDYyykFNer2INAEiPWVIqCJN4r5o5PaOUiw0yOBXdqFk+N1dK8U/ye qyPgqraHOP2sEeJJJGRy7mjusF4aUojcbEO5DrOlmCPCR1KmvYJAuIck9UYA== DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=cc:content-transfer-encoding:content-type :date:date:feedback-id:feedback-id:from:from:in-reply-to :message-id:mime-version:reply-to:sender:subject:subject:to:to :x-me-proxy:x-me-proxy:x-me-sender:x-me-sender:x-sasl-enc; s= fm1; t=1660588185; x=1660674585; bh=bT4Kwy7MHtFS5KEPAi+s+F9TymZf SjfzvQ2A4L2h0og=; b=jfjsK2q69q6E9FTs7x9CeY/QeAYmjYbcfvwGyS34VXGA KqlYBtlwUPcTHx4ubkIr0J4o75DmokICt6dt2qfZJ0+NMx2qlzO+ZUE/H2RLUpra rZZ9ifR8KG/HrXVLxFvuQcYzTgq8HsUlwibdCmrM5av6Oc+zfEM/rgaQHEuDIP4+ qDcK7cPbo4Cb+BHhl26hWj2dThhgDrgNXSFVYaLnp/ploQvKgdYFo8RhQt7ktRp6 AxGlpoS1fcPxprG864MJuf54v1b1zICqXZJXXPoAswGcQSRqcBhAnWpoNEQx3zvU GiHlK35Cly+3AY2711md6BDtGDCPZ1PidtcfCct9Fg== X-ME-Sender: X-ME-Proxy-Cause: gggruggvucftvghtrhhoucdtuddrgedvfedrvdehvddguddvjecutefuodetggdotefrod ftvfcurfhrohhfihhlvgemucfhrghsthforghilhdpqfgfvfdpuffrtefokffrpgfnqfgh necuuegrihhlohhuthemuceftddtnecunecujfgurhepofgfggfkfffhvffutgfgsehtqh ertderreejnecuhfhrohhmpedflfhoshgvphhhucfjohhlshhtvghnfdcuoehjohhsvghp hhesjhhoshgvphhhhhholhhsthgvnhdrtghomheqnecuggftrfgrthhtvghrnhepjeehud evueelheffhffghefhtdevffehieekffefvefhhefgveegiefggffhueevnecuffhomhgr ihhnpegtohhulhhouhhrihhsrdhnvghtpdhjohhsvghphhhhohhlshhtvghnrdgtohhmne cuvehluhhsthgvrhfuihiivgeptdenucfrrghrrghmpehmrghilhhfrhhomhepjhhoshgv phhhsehjohhsvghphhhhohhlshhtvghnrdgtohhm X-ME-Proxy: Feedback-ID: i49d34368:Fastmail Received: by mailuser.nyi.internal (Postfix, from userid 501) id 8F49315A008B; Mon, 15 Aug 2022 14:29:44 -0400 (EDT) X-Mailer: MessagingEngine.com Webmail Interface User-Agent: Cyrus-JMAP/3.7.0-alpha0-841-g7899e99a45-fm-20220811.002-g7899e99a Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <7a9e28f3-ff88-47ca-a4c1-e7fc20eef619@www.fastmail.com> Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2022 11:28:54 -0700 From: "Joseph Holsten" To: tuhs@tuhs.org Content-Type: text/plain;charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-ID-Hash: 6P7EV3757UMP7TBOY7HPXWTXVJDZRYU7 X-Message-ID-Hash: 6P7EV3757UMP7TBOY7HPXWTXVJDZRYU7 X-MailFrom: joseph@josephholsten.com X-Mailman-Rule-Misses: dmarc-mitigation; no-senders; approved; emergency; loop; banned-address; member-moderation; header-match-tuhs.tuhs.org-0; nonmember-moderation; administrivia; implicit-dest; max-recipients; max-size; news-moderation; no-subject; digests; suspicious-header X-Mailman-Version: 3.3.6b1 Precedence: list Subject: [TUHS] Editor for Mortals History List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list Archived-At: List-Archive: List-Help: List-Owner: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Hello everyone! I=E2=80=99ve been digging into text editor history, and = I found: =E2=80=9CThis provided another huge step forward in usability and allowe= d us to maintain our modeless approach to screen editing, which was, we feel, superior to the Vi approach.=E2=80=9D from https://www.coulouris.net/cs_= history/em_story/ This makes me want to know em=E2=80=99s history outside the usual precur= sor-to-vi narrative. Does anyone know much about the timeline of em from= 1971 (QMC Unix installation) to 1976 (Intro to W M Joy @ UCB)? And does= anyone know of developments to it after 1976-04-29? That=E2=80=99s the = last date within text in the https://www.coulouris.net/cs_history/em_sto= ry/emsource/ files. (Also grumble grumble broken touch feature detection= in that shar, which indicates last mod of 1996-02-18). Anyone other than Coulouris used em in the last 45 years? -- Joseph Holsten http://josephholsten.com mailto:joseph@josephholsten.com tel:+1-360-927-7234