From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: ** X-Spam-Status: No, score=2.9 required=5.0 tests=HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS, MAILING_LIST_MULTI,PLING_QUERY,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE,RCVD_IN_SBL_CSS autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (minnie.tuhs.org [45.79.103.53]) by inbox.vuxu.org (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTP id 5f490dcd for ; Sat, 12 Oct 2019 19:34:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 8EE689BC99; Sun, 13 Oct 2019 05:34:19 +1000 (AEST) Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 51E9A9B8B2; Sun, 13 Oct 2019 05:34:00 +1000 (AEST) Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 52C1E9B8B2; Sun, 13 Oct 2019 05:33:58 +1000 (AEST) Received: from ste-pvt-msa2.bahnhof.se (ste-pvt-msa2.bahnhof.se [213.80.101.71]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A5A639B844 for ; Sun, 13 Oct 2019 05:33:57 +1000 (AEST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ste-pvt-msa2.bahnhof.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0406D3F99B for ; Sat, 12 Oct 2019 21:33:56 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at bahnhof.se Received: from ste-pvt-msa2.bahnhof.se ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (ste-ftg-msa2.bahnhof.se [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id QbcHkzSFhle0 for ; Sat, 12 Oct 2019 21:33:54 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost (unknown [85.24.253.37]) (Authenticated sender: mc469656) by ste-pvt-msa2.bahnhof.se (Postfix) with ESMTPA id E6CFF3F944 for ; Sat, 12 Oct 2019 21:33:54 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8A6B72E02CB for ; Sat, 12 Oct 2019 21:33:54 +0200 (CEST) Date: Sat, 12 Oct 2019 19:33:53 +0000 From: Michael =?utf-8?B?S2rDtnJsaW5n?= To: tuhs@tuhs.org Message-ID: <7b7gk3rkhnthgh4gqstmg3gb@localhost> References: <20191010205546.GA29154@minnie.tuhs.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <20191010205546.GA29154@minnie.tuhs.org> Subject: Re: [TUHS] What was your "Aha, Unix!" moment? X-BeenThere: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org Sender: "TUHS" On 11 Oct 2019 06:55 +1000, from wkt@tuhs.org (Warren Toomey): > What was your "ahah" moment when you > first saw that Unix was special, especially compared to the systems you'd > previously used? My Unix moment wasn't anywhere near as distinct as some other peoples'. It was rather very much a gradual process. I got Internet access of my own as I recall some time in 1996. (I'd got a modem only a year or so earlier.) I definitely had Internet access and my own e-mail address in mid-1996. At that time, having had problems installing Windows 95 on top of 3.1x, I believe I was still running Windows for Workgroups 3.11 on MS-DOS. Before I figured out how to get Trumpet Winsock to talk to my ISP (it probably would have gone more easily if not for the fact that due to still young age at the time and English not being my native language I was rather Englishtically challenged), that meant dial-up and log in to my ISP's Unix systems, which I mainly used to send and receive e-mail using Pine (which I _was_ able to figure out how to use). Looking back today at some of the e-mails from around that time, I'm guessing that system ran Solaris; the message-IDs from the oldest e-mails I still have clearly indicate "Pine.SOL.3.92" but a quick web search for what SOL meant to Pine turned out to be rather unhelpful. Also somewhere around that same time, someone first introduced me to Linux, but the two of us just weren't ready for each other at the time. I dipped my toes twice before taking the plunge to using Linux (then Red Hat 6.2) as my main desktop OS some time in mid-2000. Even then it took a while to get used to, but on the whole, here I am almost two decades later, not looking back... (though I do have to use Windows at work.) -- Michael Kjörling • https://michael.kjorling.se • michael@kjorling.se “The most dangerous thought that you can have as a creative person is to think you know what you’re doing.” (Bret Victor)