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charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mirapoint-IP-Reputation: reputation=Neutral-1, source=Queried, refid=tid=0001.0A742F8D.6196A698.001B, actions=tag X-Mirapoint-Virus-RAPID-Raw: score=unknown(0), refid=str=0001.0A742F29.6196A698.0071,ss=1,re=0.000,fgs=0, ip=0.0.0.0, so=2016-11-06 16:00:04, dmn=2011-05-27 18:58:46 X-Mirapoint-Loop-Id: 52f0a57bc851fe0bbc37d5cb00556582 X-Mirapoint-IP-Reputation: reputation=good-1, source=Fixed, refid=n/a, actions=tag X-Junkmail-Status: score=7/90, host=mpv4-2015.case.edu X-Junkmail-PrAS-Raw: score=7/90, refid=2.7.2:2021.11.12.74815:17:7.944, ip=, rules=DKIM_SIGNATURE, __HAS_MSGID, __SANE_MSGID, DATE_TZ_NA, __MIME_VERSION, __USER_AGENT, __MOZILLA_USER_AGENT, __HAS_REPLYTO, __HAS_CC_HDR, __SUBJ_REPLY, __BOUNCE_CHALLENGE_SUBJ, __BOUNCE_NDR_SUBJ_EXEMPT, __TO_MALFORMED_2, __TO_NO_NAME, __MULTIPLE_RCPTS_TO_X2, __HAS_REFERENCES, __REFERENCES, __HAS_FROM, FROM_EDU_TLD, __IN_REP_TO, __CT, __CT_TEXT_PLAIN, CT_TEXT_PLAIN_UTF8_CAPS, __CTE, __REPLYTO_SAMEAS_FROM_ADDY, __REPLYTO_SAMEAS_FROM_ACC, __FROM_DOMAIN_IN_ANY_CC1, __FROM_DOMAIN_IN_ANY_CC2, __HEADER_ORDER_FROM, __REPLYTO_SAMEAS_FROM_DOMAIN, __DKIM_ALIGNS_1, __DKIM_ALIGNS_2, __FUR_HEADER, __ANY_URI, __URI_MAILTO, __URI_WITH_PATH, __URI_ENDS_IN_SLASH, __URI_NO_WWW, __CP_URI_IN_BODY, __SUBJ_ALPHA_NEGATE, __URI_IN_BODY, __URI_NOT_IMG, __MAIL_CHAIN, __BODY_NO_MAILTO, __NO_HTML_TAG_RAW, BODYTEXTP_SIZE_3000_LESS, BODY_SIZE_500_599, __MIME_TEXT_P1, __MIME_TEXT_ONLY, [TRUNCATED], so=2010-03-03 19:42:08, dmn=2016-08-03-0138 Subject: Re: [TUHS] Book Recommendation [ reallly inscrutable languages ] X-BeenThere: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Reply-To: chet.ramey@case.edu Errors-To: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org Sender: "TUHS" On 11/18/21 2:03 PM, arnold@skeeve.com wrote: > Also remember that there were plenty of people who were happy working > with the shell and the Unix toolkit as-is. I would argue that this functionality gap is what inspired David Korn to put as much into ksh as he did. The first `public' version of ksh was released in 1983. -- ``The lyf so short, the craft so long to lerne.'' - Chaucer ``Ars longa, vita brevis'' - Hippocrates Chet Ramey, UTech, CWRU chet@case.edu http://tiswww.cwru.edu/~chet/