From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=MAILING_LIST_MULTI, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 3647 invoked from network); 16 Jul 2021 09:02:39 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (45.79.103.53) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 16 Jul 2021 09:02:39 -0000 Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 97ADE9C830; Fri, 16 Jul 2021 19:02:37 +1000 (AEST) Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 62E3A9C7F1; Fri, 16 Jul 2021 19:02:15 +1000 (AEST) Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 01F499C7F1; Fri, 16 Jul 2021 19:02:14 +1000 (AEST) Received: from junk.nocrew.org (junk.nocrew.org [51.15.56.219]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7E6D99C7F0 for ; Fri, 16 Jul 2021 19:02:13 +1000 (AEST) Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=junk.nocrew.org) by junk.nocrew.org with esmtp (Exim 4.86_2) (envelope-from ) id 1m4JBl-0005rH-1v; Fri, 16 Jul 2021 08:27:17 +0000 From: Lars Brinkhoff To: John Floren Organization: nocrew References: Date: Fri, 16 Jul 2021 08:27:17 +0000 In-Reply-To: (John Floren's message of "Fri, 16 Jul 2021 00:02:21 +0000") Message-ID: <7w8s26pst6.fsf@junk.nocrew.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: Re: [TUHS] head/sed/tail (was The Unix shell: a 50-year view) X-BeenThere: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org Errors-To: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org Sender: "TUHS" John Floren wrote: > Speaking of SAIL (and I suppose further derailing an already derailed > discussion), I've occasionally looked for more information about the > environment (typically whenever a book or article briefly mentions > SAIL as a place with lots of custom hardware and software) but come up > with little. Anyone know of good description of SAIL computer systems? I'm risking the Wrath of the Moderator here, but I really want to supply some information. Sorry, this is very far from Unix. But hey, SUDS was used to design the Stanford SUN Unix workstation. What do you mean with "SAIL computer systems"? I think upthread SAIL was referencing the Algol compiler written at the Stanford AI lab. But SAIL was also an acronym for the entire lab, AND also used as a name for the main timesharing computer hardware. The hardware was first a PDP-6, then adding a PDP-10 (KA10), then a KL10. The operating system was eventually named WAITS, but was also sometimes called SAIL or just SYSTEM. WAITS was also run on two Foonlies at other sites, and those could also be called SAIL computer systems in some sense. I gather you probably mean the AI lab and its computers. The best place for information is saildart.org, and Bruce Baumgart is working on a tome called "SAILDART_Prolegomenon". This work in progress is 116 pages. https://github.com/PDP-10/waits/blob/master/doc/SAILDART_Prolegomenon_2016.pdf