From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=MAILING_LIST_MULTI autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 11511 invoked from network); 22 Sep 2022 17:00:38 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (50.116.15.146) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 22 Sep 2022 17:00:38 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 65DBF40A1B; Fri, 23 Sep 2022 03:00:15 +1000 (AEST) Received: from junk.nocrew.org (junk.nocrew.org [51.15.56.219]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6F8CC40A06 for ; Fri, 23 Sep 2022 03:00:10 +1000 (AEST) Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=junk.nocrew.org) by junk.nocrew.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.86_2) (envelope-from ) id 1obPYV-0000af-Ok; Thu, 22 Sep 2022 17:00:07 +0000 From: Lars Brinkhoff To: Warner Losh Organization: nocrew References: <202209220842.28M8gtYE020021@freefriends.org> <20220922090050.9405B200BA@orac.inputplus.co.uk> Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2022 17:00:06 +0000 In-Reply-To: (Warner Losh's message of "Thu, 22 Sep 2022 10:13:38 -0600") Message-ID: <7wczbnwdih.fsf@junk.nocrew.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 127.0.0.1 X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: lars@nocrew.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No (on junk.nocrew.org); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Message-ID-Hash: IFAK5NNYAYVVFQWXZOJBX5VBGDDGJHAX X-Message-ID-Hash: IFAK5NNYAYVVFQWXZOJBX5VBGDDGJHAX X-MailFrom: lars@nocrew.org X-Mailman-Rule-Misses: dmarc-mitigation; no-senders; approved; emergency; loop; banned-address; member-moderation; header-match-tuhs.tuhs.org-0; nonmember-moderation; administrivia; implicit-dest; max-recipients; max-size; news-moderation; no-subject; digests; suspicious-header CC: The Eunuchs Hysterical Society X-Mailman-Version: 3.3.6b1 Precedence: list Subject: [TUHS] Re: Strange Reference on Usenix_77 tape List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list Archived-At: List-Archive: List-Help: List-Owner: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Warner Losh wrote: > > For those of us not involved with Unix in 1977, what was the > > HRSTS system? > > =E2=80=98The Harvard/Radcliffe Student Time-sharing System Terminal User= s Guide, > 1st edition, September 10, 1974, Center for Research in Computing > Technology, Harvard University=E2=80=99. > > These are the same folks that also did the LISP that appeared in > various 2BSD distributions as well. There's a special C compiler. I found a description in a Usenix paper[1], and it really seems to be a lot of "Harvard specials" in there. MACRO-11, LINK-11, DDT, TECO, FILCOM, shell with TENEX file completion, even ECL[2]. To me it looks like a layer of PDP-10 on top of Unix. [1] https://www.usenix.org/system/files/login/articles/login_june_11_unix_n= ews.pdf [2] https://github.com/PDP-10/harvard-ecl