From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=MAILING_LIST_MULTI, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 24251 invoked from network); 16 Jul 2022 07:00:40 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (50.116.15.146) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 16 Jul 2022 07:00:40 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6AB8640712; Sat, 16 Jul 2022 17:00:04 +1000 (AEST) Received: from junk.nocrew.org (junk.nocrew.org [51.15.56.219]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 78DCD406F0 for ; Sat, 16 Jul 2022 16:59:54 +1000 (AEST) Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=junk.nocrew.org) by junk.nocrew.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.86_2) (envelope-from ) id 1oCbmK-0004RA-Q8; Sat, 16 Jul 2022 06:59:52 +0000 From: Lars Brinkhoff To: jnc@mercury.lcs.mit.edu (Noel Chiappa) Organization: nocrew References: <20220715102537.22E9018C080@mercury.lcs.mit.edu> Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2022 06:59:52 +0000 In-Reply-To: <20220715102537.22E9018C080@mercury.lcs.mit.edu> (Noel Chiappa's message of "Fri, 15 Jul 2022 06:25:37 -0400 (EDT)") Message-ID: <7wh73hwniv.fsf@junk.nocrew.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 127.0.0.1 X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: lars@nocrew.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No (on junk.nocrew.org); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Message-ID-Hash: AAF47VJTMMS7WNBV73YAERGN2TLGOEEK X-Message-ID-Hash: AAF47VJTMMS7WNBV73YAERGN2TLGOEEK X-MailFrom: lars@nocrew.org X-Mailman-Rule-Misses: dmarc-mitigation; no-senders; approved; emergency; loop; banned-address; member-moderation; header-match-tuhs.tuhs.org-0; nonmember-moderation; administrivia; implicit-dest; max-recipients; max-size; news-moderation; no-subject; digests; suspicious-header CC: tuhs@tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 3.3.6b1 Precedence: list Subject: [TUHS] Re: Unix V8 Chaosnet, any takers? List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list Archived-At: List-Archive: List-Help: List-Owner: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Noel Chiappa wrote: > > There is a small hobbyist Chaos network going > What encapsulation are they using to transmit CHAOS packets (over the > Internet, I assume)? There are several methods to encapsulate packets for transmission locally or over the Internet: - EtherType 0x0804 - IP protocol 0x10 (yours!) - Unix domain socket - UDP - TLS over TCP/IP (preferred transport across Internet) There is a bridge/router that understands all these, written by professor Bj=C3=B6rn Victor. Various computer hardware and emulators suppo= rt different encapsulations: real Lispms use Ethernet, an LMI Lambda emulator uses IP, KLH10 and SIMH use the UDP method, and the PDP-10/X FPGA uses a Unix socket.